I think perhaps you’re reading too much into what others say. There are a lot of exaggerated views all over the internet, and that means here as well. And although I’d like to believe most of us here do our best to speak in good faith, I’m sure that’s not always true.
And yet, I’m also sure that there are some people here who do genuinely believe that Westerners can’t be leftists, but I think those views are clouded by the history of Western hegemony and imperialism, and ultimately don’t stand up to scrutiny. I think it’s our responsibility to, maybe not be accepting of such views, but at least to be understanding of them with intent to put them behind us.
I think there are a lot of issues that aren’t necessarily clear cut and obvious that someone is always right, and even under the leftist umbrella, you can run into conflict and disagreement. There can often be conflict between long-term and short-term goals for example, or between utilitarian and virtue ethic frameworks.
And beyond that, we’re all human here, so we can have emotional attachments to our positions which can impede reflection as well.
So while you’re right, acting in good faith means we should do our best to accept that we might be wrong, it also means we should try to have the grace to accept that others may not be immediately capable of the same.
I think genuine curiosity can go a long way, if that’s the case, and that means accepting the possibility that they may know something that you do not.
If you can genuinely understand their beliefs down to their roots, then maybe you can help them to see where they’re contradictory.
I think you mean, “liberals”.
I’m sorry, I’m not sure I follow…
I don’t pass the lefty purity test because I participate in American democracy. That means I can only be liberal and never a leftist.
If you want to increase your leftist purity, then stop supporting a genocidal empire. It’s not that complicated.
I think perhaps you’re reading too much into what others say. There are a lot of exaggerated views all over the internet, and that means here as well. And although I’d like to believe most of us here do our best to speak in good faith, I’m sure that’s not always true.
And yet, I’m also sure that there are some people here who do genuinely believe that Westerners can’t be leftists, but I think those views are clouded by the history of Western hegemony and imperialism, and ultimately don’t stand up to scrutiny. I think it’s our responsibility to, maybe not be accepting of such views, but at least to be understanding of them with intent to put them behind us.
I understand but when I call them out for being the thing they claim to detest they double down which only serves to prove my point.
Good faith. Good faith requires reflection. If you can’t scrutinize your own behavior you can’t act in good faith.
I think there are a lot of issues that aren’t necessarily clear cut and obvious that someone is always right, and even under the leftist umbrella, you can run into conflict and disagreement. There can often be conflict between long-term and short-term goals for example, or between utilitarian and virtue ethic frameworks.
And beyond that, we’re all human here, so we can have emotional attachments to our positions which can impede reflection as well.
So while you’re right, acting in good faith means we should do our best to accept that we might be wrong, it also means we should try to have the grace to accept that others may not be immediately capable of the same.
We grow gardens by planting seeds.
I’m only conflicted because I want to plant seeds along side them but they’re placing them in tainted earth.
I think genuine curiosity can go a long way, if that’s the case, and that means accepting the possibility that they may know something that you do not.
If you can genuinely understand their beliefs down to their roots, then maybe you can help them to see where they’re contradictory.
I would love to engage but, sorry, I’m banned.
When they do come at me it’s only with rotten double think and blaze out, fustrated, that I won’t succumb.