That stuff Miyazaki said was before generative AI existed. He was commenting on procedural animation being used poorly in a 3D simulation. It’s fair to apply his sentiment to AI, but he himself was not talking about AI.
His popular AI quote is from 2016 and is missing a lot of context. What he was commenting on isn’t anything like the current generative AI wave. That being said, he doesn’t seem to have publicly rectified it so it might still represent his views.
Agreed. Based on ongoing circumstances and the general response from other high-profile animators in the industry, I am inclined to think that Miyazaki and others at Ghibli are still against AI art. But I also do feel that the quote from 2016 is being reused without the essential context.
Miyazaki opened his response by talking about a friend of his who suffers from a physical disability, which is entirely irrelevant to the topic of generative AI. In context, it was directed at a reinforcement-learning AI model that some artists implemented to try to animate human-like models in unorthodox and unnatural ways, with the proposed utility of using it for zombies or similar. Their suggestion was that these unnatural learned movements are meant to be seen as disturbing and monstrous.
The “insult to life itself” remark was with regards to how they seemed to be making a mockery of disability and, with his friend in mind, was not something he could approve of.
Don’t really see how that doesn’t relate. So its not a reinforcement learning model designed to make animations. Cool, the result is still the same. Humanity losing faith in itself quote really can’t be applied in a different way to only refer to this one specific model that was made to make terrifying animations, it clearly applies to handing all this human made work over to machines that dont understand why we make what we make. The machine, and subsequently the people who created it, were accused by Miyazaki of not knowing suffering. Not having any idea about something they were trying to emulate. This is what struck his core. The lack of empathy or connection to the subject. The root of all of our connections and bonds come from shared experience and empathy. He was speaking on the abandonment of these principles and AI is the epitome of it all.
Thank you, way too many people here who seem to completely misunderstand the nature of Miyazaki’s resentment towards AI.
He was not simply put off by the appearance of the animations, but rather repulsed by the entire process and the idea that machines could ever replicate the creativity of humanity. This is a man that had one of his animators work more than a year on a 4 second shot, refusing to use CGI in any capacity to speed that process up. The notion that he would have anything but contempt for AI is laughable.
Miyazaki’s sadness was enough for me. He is right. This is humans losing faith in humans. Trust the machine, not yourself.
That stuff Miyazaki said was before generative AI existed. He was commenting on procedural animation being used poorly in a 3D simulation. It’s fair to apply his sentiment to AI, but he himself was not talking about AI.
Those animations were cursed.
https://youtu.be/ngZ0K3lWKRc
Oh yeah, the presentation he was commenting on did suck, and while what he said to those guys was harsh it was entirely justified.
Also AI is still worse than a human on things like essay writing. Why do I know? Cause I just finished grading midterms!
His popular AI quote is from 2016 and is missing a lot of context. What he was commenting on isn’t anything like the current generative AI wave. That being said, he doesn’t seem to have publicly rectified it so it might still represent his views.
Agreed. Based on ongoing circumstances and the general response from other high-profile animators in the industry, I am inclined to think that Miyazaki and others at Ghibli are still against AI art. But I also do feel that the quote from 2016 is being reused without the essential context.
Miyazaki opened his response by talking about a friend of his who suffers from a physical disability, which is entirely irrelevant to the topic of generative AI. In context, it was directed at a reinforcement-learning AI model that some artists implemented to try to animate human-like models in unorthodox and unnatural ways, with the proposed utility of using it for zombies or similar. Their suggestion was that these unnatural learned movements are meant to be seen as disturbing and monstrous.
The “insult to life itself” remark was with regards to how they seemed to be making a mockery of disability and, with his friend in mind, was not something he could approve of.
Don’t really see how that doesn’t relate. So its not a reinforcement learning model designed to make animations. Cool, the result is still the same. Humanity losing faith in itself quote really can’t be applied in a different way to only refer to this one specific model that was made to make terrifying animations, it clearly applies to handing all this human made work over to machines that dont understand why we make what we make. The machine, and subsequently the people who created it, were accused by Miyazaki of not knowing suffering. Not having any idea about something they were trying to emulate. This is what struck his core. The lack of empathy or connection to the subject. The root of all of our connections and bonds come from shared experience and empathy. He was speaking on the abandonment of these principles and AI is the epitome of it all.
Thank you, way too many people here who seem to completely misunderstand the nature of Miyazaki’s resentment towards AI.
He was not simply put off by the appearance of the animations, but rather repulsed by the entire process and the idea that machines could ever replicate the creativity of humanity. This is a man that had one of his animators work more than a year on a 4 second shot, refusing to use CGI in any capacity to speed that process up. The notion that he would have anything but contempt for AI is laughable.