• grue@lemmy.worldOPM
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    13 hours ago

    No, because your premise is incorrect. This person is completely in support of the concept of independence, but simply rejects the notion that car-dependency provides it. Real independence is achieved by removing the dependency on cars.

    • moakley@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      12 hours ago

      You didn’t read the second line?

      “Now the whole idea of independence is a messy social construct with a bunch of issues that I won’t get into right now.”

      I don’t see how anyone could interpret that as anything other than a blanket statement about independence.

      I searched up the artist to find more evidence and saw that I wasn’t the only one who thought that, because they posted a follow-up attempting to clarify that specific line. The clarification just reiterates the point of the original comic and doesn’t try to explain why that phrasing was used or what it could have meant.

      So maybe they just phrased it poorly, but I’m not the only one who took issue with it.

      • grue@lemmy.worldOPM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        12 hours ago

        Acknowledging that a concept is complicated is different from being opposed to it. You deciding to interpret the statement the latter way instead of the former is your own problem, not theirs.

        • n2burns@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          11 hours ago

          They literally say:

          “Now the whole idea of independence is a messy social construct with a bunch of issues that I won’t get into right now.”

          (Emphasis mine). They are not just saying, “it’s complicated.” They literally use the word “issues.”

          • grue@lemmy.worldOPM
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            10 hours ago

            Yeah. And “issues” means “issues,” which is not the same as “bad.”

      • logos@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        11 hours ago

        How is claiming that independence is a complicated, nuanced concept problematic?

        It sounds like you are interpreting it as if they are saying it doesn’t exist or something similar which is not at all what they said.