If a trans woman still has male genitals then its understandable that biological women might feel uncomfortble sharing such spaces…On the flip side, if a trans woman has had full reassignment surgery, then I don’t see the problem with sharing the same spaces…
How would they know what genitals someone has? Did I miss the memo where we’re supposed to look at other people’s genitals in the toilets? I’m not on board with this.
Just make real full height stalls so no one has to share the space with anyone and all the bathrooms can be for everyone. The problem is not trans people, it’s bathroom design
It’s actually fantastic, I haven’t used a gendered public restroom in a year or so now that there are a bunch of single person ones in my area. The ungendered ones are clean and they’re quiet and just better in every way
Thinking about it, there are separate public conveniences with no designation, at the car park I use when I take the dog to the vets, they make perfect sense, clean & private…
I was just pointing out that whether you use women’s bathrooms or men’s, the same point applies: this concern about the genitals of the person in the next stall is a weird non-problem cooked up by bigots, yet the politicians scramble to appease them.
Originally they came about as a means of keeping women out of public life and in the home. Buildings would often designate toilets as “Men’s” as an excuse to make them inaccessible. Its really that daft and sexist.
Urinals. Most restaurants and cafes have unisex cubicles. When you get to pubs and nightclubs you can get more pee draining space per square foot with a urinal.
As far as I understand it nothing stops an establishment just declaring all their toilets as unisex. I’ve certainly been in a number of drinking establishments where this has been the case.
If a trans woman still has male genitals then its understandable that biological women might feel uncomfortble sharing such spaces…On the flip side, if a trans woman has had full reassignment surgery, then I don’t see the problem with sharing the same spaces…
How would they know what genitals someone has? Did I miss the memo where we’re supposed to look at other people’s genitals in the toilets? I’m not on board with this.
Just make real full height stalls so no one has to share the space with anyone and all the bathrooms can be for everyone. The problem is not trans people, it’s bathroom design
That would be the answer, just have unisex seperates…
Careful what you wish for
It’s actually fantastic, I haven’t used a gendered public restroom in a year or so now that there are a bunch of single person ones in my area. The ungendered ones are clean and they’re quiet and just better in every way
Thinking about it, there are separate public conveniences with no designation, at the car park I use when I take the dog to the vets, they make perfect sense, clean & private…
When was the last time you looked down a woman’s pants in the bathroom?
I don’t go into women’s bathrooms…
Then when was the last time you looked down a man’s pants in a public toilet, to check they had the approved genitals?
I wasn’t reflecting my feelings on the subject, was merely trying to understand why this has all become highlighted…
I was just pointing out that whether you use women’s bathrooms or men’s, the same point applies: this concern about the genitals of the person in the next stall is a weird non-problem cooked up by bigots, yet the politicians scramble to appease them.
So why do we have male & female bathrooms in the first place then …
Yes, why? A lot of spaces have unisex toilets, no problem at all
Originally they came about as a means of keeping women out of public life and in the home. Buildings would often designate toilets as “Men’s” as an excuse to make them inaccessible. Its really that daft and sexist.
Good question.
An important, non-rhetorical question that’s worth answering.
Urinals. Most restaurants and cafes have unisex cubicles. When you get to pubs and nightclubs you can get more pee draining space per square foot with a urinal.
As far as I understand it nothing stops an establishment just declaring all their toilets as unisex. I’ve certainly been in a number of drinking establishments where this has been the case.
Because men are rapists.
So instead of taking it out on everybody else, just address that actual issue.
Hey so, I just wanted to let you know that trans women are often biological women, and penises are not inherently male or female.