Yep, pretty much any mind altering substance can teach you that. It is one thing to philosophise about it, but another thing entirely to experience it first hand. Can also be experienced through meditation (especially Buddhist jhana meditation), although it’s a skill that takes time to learn.
I did that 10 days vipassana retreat where we meditated for more than 16 hours a day for 10 days. Eventually I got there, but it was very underwhelming, way to much work for too little blis/reward or what you want to call it. Never tried mind altering substances (other than alcohol and marijuana) because I’m too afraid to get hoked and to destroy my life.
Psychedelics won’t hook you. You will be very overwhelmed the first time and you will think about the experience and if it was pleasurable, you will probably be open to doing it again but it’s not an addictive experience unless you want it to be. And even then it will take you a long time to develop an addiction. One hit of LSD or some mushroom chocolates with people you can trust and enjoy being around would should be something everyone tries once. The art of the 60s will definitely have a whole new meaning.
Trying to be happy via drugs drives home just how non-arbitrary it is.
Drugs give you variation around a set point. Uppers crash you down. Downers make you tense when they wear off. Only real world work can move that set point around which drugs just make you fluctuate.
Psychedelics can absolutely kick that set-point into another universe if you let them. I can’t begin to explain how it works or how it feels, but I have personally have had some very significant life changes since I started using them on a regular basis.
Sure, you can use psychedelics for fun, but in a proper environment they can be a strong driver for extremely healthy mental change.
Real work is an absolute requirement. No argument there. However, a person may need a complete mental rewiring to get to the point where they are willing to move forward. Like myself.
I hate myself, this world, and most people so much that I want to do psychedelics just to kill that side of me and, hopefully, start feeling like I have some sort of power again. I am about to look into buying the spores and growing my own, but I don’t want a shit ton of extra shrooms. I just want to do one heavy dose, let my inner id die, and live my life again.
Do it man! I hope you find a way to engage where you feel like you’re pedaling life not just screaming downhill with no brakes.
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I totally get that. Really.
I can’t tell you how to trip or what your dosages are going to be. Every person is different and your mind may not be cut out for what you will experience. Taking one mega dose without experience or without a friend around is not recommended unless you already have a firm grip on reality and are an extremely self aware person.
If you need advice, DM me and I can tell you how to get started growing or ask around in /c/shrooms (Edit: added a link to the instance and community in a separate comment)and you will get some good advice. There are easy ways to grow these days without needing equipment for sterilization.
This instance is shrooms friendly, so I hang out here.A shoebox size grow will get you a few trips, so don’t worry about having too many.One dose may work for you or it may not. If you know someone that you can trust fully and they have a super chill vibe, it’s good practice to trip with a partner. Your own mind can be a scary place if left to its own devices and a partner is a good source of reality checks if you get “lost”.
Ego death (or ego dissolution) is a very real thing that you can experience. Your existence seems to stop being about just you and you can develop an almost spiritual connection with everything around you. It’s life changing, but a person should be aware of what is real and what is actually part of the trip. In some cases, reality does mix with what you perceive as “real” and it can be exceedingly complex to filter out what is going on.
Above all else, you need to be in a healthy environment. Environmental context can absolutely determine how your trip is going to be. Psychedelics can amplify what are normally passive feelings and you want to set the tone as best as you can.
I have tried many different dosage levels in many different environments. I have had good experiences and also negative ones. In my case, shrooms helped me perceive the world from a brand new point of view and everything felt new again. I can almost feel how my brain is being rewired and it is very interesting.
I love you and your explanation. My wife has done them a couple of times. I’ve been listening to, “How to change your mind” audiobook, and it makes me really want to experience it. I’m an empath so I fully expect to experience the ego death and I welcome the experience no matter how it goes. I have saved your message and will definitely look into that lemmy group and see about setting up my own temp grow environment.
I appreciate you!
Yeah but it doesn’t happen automatically on psychedelics. You’ve still got to do the work, inside the trip.
Hence, my the first two sentences of that last paragraph. Real results take real work, no argument there. However, there is always a way to hopefully work smarter, not harder.
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Getting more anxious arbitrarily when high would also support their statement. They didn’t say that getting less anxious was what indicated a disconnection between feelings and reality
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I used to enjoy it, but over time I ended up in a similar boat. Just a huge bust of anxiety, especially socially. But on the other hand, I feel pretty okay in the day to day. I’ve come to see it as a sort of forced introspection - not necessarily revealing anything I don’t already know about, but bringing it all to the surface and forcing the mind to see it. In that respect, it could still be drawing a line between feeling and how things are going.
Not that it makes it necessarily more universal, but I think there’s a grain of truth.
I didn’t say every time every person gets high
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Sorry I upset you. Wasn’t being snarky.
Whenever I talk about getting anxiety from weed, someone inevitably hits me with the “try a different strain!” as if I haven’t tried to mango strains, oil, vaping, and edibles lawl
One thing that did completely take away my anxiety while getting high is CBD. More CBD than THC in a bowl and I have a great high. Give me straight THC and I’m more than likely not going to have a good time
I have a big vial of pure CBD oil I’ve never used, I should try that.
I also want to say that dry herb vaporizers played a big role in my anxiety reduction also. Being able to control the temp to get certain terpenes is great and the high and feeling is a lot smoother. I start off at a low temp and work my way up in one bowl so I slowly get all the effects of it all. Also greatly reduced the amount of bud I was using
CBD itself won’t get you high, just get you chill. I enjoy CBD in itself. I use CBD, CBG, and THC everything. I only use a little bit of THC, more of the CBs.
I guess CBD can get you a bit high but it’s not like you’re baked. You know you’ve consumed something. Although, it’s possible CBD in itself will do nothing for you. CBD is best when mixed with other cannabinoids like a small amount of THC or mixed with CBG.
A lot of great research is going into CBD and I’m all about it. It shows all the positives without a lot of the negatives. The PTSD and depression research is especially helpful knowing how many of my fellow vets are suffering from such ailments!
It is weird to think about how much is determined by chemicals.
Literally all your thoughts are determined by chemicals.
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My mom likes the saying “nothing is good nor bad only thinking makes it so”
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Smoking weed gives me headaches so there’s that against it.
