“self-identifying liberals as they exist in the world today”
The world is a big place. Not sure if you mean “liberal” in the US context, “Liberal” as in the Canadian political party. “Neo-liberal” as in Economic position of Friedman economics, etc…
Leftist is also a relative term and isn’t very useful. You likely believe in important structural reforms surrounding minimum wage (perhaps UBI), environmental protection, universal affordable/accessible healthcare, strict banking regulation, drastic progressive taxation, harsh penalties for white collar crime, etc… But “left” of what, I doubt youre pushing for authoritarianism or communism?
My point is there are literally Nazis we are fighting right now. Maybe stop with the infighting as a result of ambiguous labels.
It’s not infighting. Liberals are reactionaries trying to return to a status quo they enjoyed. Leftists want to move forward to build an equitable world. Two completely opposing goals.
K. Not talking about liberals in theory. I’m speaking of the self-identifying liberals as they exist in the world today. An absolute menace.
“self-identifying liberals as they exist in the world today”
The world is a big place. Not sure if you mean “liberal” in the US context, “Liberal” as in the Canadian political party. “Neo-liberal” as in Economic position of Friedman economics, etc…
Leftist is also a relative term and isn’t very useful. You likely believe in important structural reforms surrounding minimum wage (perhaps UBI), environmental protection, universal affordable/accessible healthcare, strict banking regulation, drastic progressive taxation, harsh penalties for white collar crime, etc… But “left” of what, I doubt youre pushing for authoritarianism or communism?
My point is there are literally Nazis we are fighting right now. Maybe stop with the infighting as a result of ambiguous labels.
It’s not infighting. Liberals are reactionaries trying to return to a status quo they enjoyed. Leftists want to move forward to build an equitable world. Two completely opposing goals.
But go on with your obfuscation.