• rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
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    If they think Doctor Who has “gone” woke, they have not been watching.

    I remember Captain Jack Harkness flirting with anything that moves, regardless of gender identity or species.

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      The last time I was sentenced to death, I ordered four hyper-vodkas for my breakfast. All a bit of a blur after that… I woke up in bed with both of my executioners. Lovely couple, they stayed in touch! Can’t say that about most executioners.

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      Unfortunately his behavior continued on set. Creepy dude.

      But his character wasn’t meant to be creepy, and I need to remember that from time to time.

    • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠@programming.dev
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      I have to disagree a bit here, the recent writing has tried to very heavily shoe-horn it in, whereas in the past it was much more naturally present.

      I think the worst one for me (before I quit watching) was with the enormous spiders in the hotel run by a very Trumpian figure.

      “Trump” wanted to just shoot the enormous spider, but the Doctor stopped him saying “no weapons, ever”. The spider then died an agonizing death caused by suffocation on-screen mere seconds later. Her offspring was lured and locked into a storage room with food, after which they would surely either cannibalize themselves or starve. Actually shooting them would’ve been a mercy at that point.

      When presented with the Doctor’s solution versus the “Trump” solution, I felt more sympathy for “Trump”. And I fucking hate that guy. That’s when I knew the writing just wasn’t for me anymore.

      There’s a reason even the more diehard Whovians, who are very much considered “woke” are tuning out. It’s not the cast, it’s the writing.

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        The Doctor has been pretty anti-gun for as long as I’ve been watching. Honestly I just felt the Chibnal era lost a bit of magic, less campy/extreme/wild ride feeling to it. The first new season I thought was pretty decent.

        • True, but that translated into anti-violence most of the time. Here there was a chance to either give the creature mercy and kill it quickly, or let it suffer a horrible painful frightening death. At that point, what is exactly the ethical choice?

          I thought the new run opened fairly poorly. Imo most of the issues I have with Who writing are still there.

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        Arachnids in the uk was 7 years ago, with a different cast, a different show runner, hell a different production company and channel.

        So if it was the one that made you quit watching, how can you opine on the current run?

        • Yeah but my biggest criticisms haven’t changed during Ncuti’s go at it either. Not that he can help it much, he too gets crappy writing.

          There was a brief resurgence in apparent good writing when Tennant took over, though the final faceoff with the Toymaker was deeply disappointing. Loved seeing Catherine again though, she was amazing in the 2nd episode.

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      I’m laughing at the “people just hate the bad plots” my bean i am a classic who fan. I have been since it was still on the air. I have seen shit that would melt their tiny minds.