Damn you sure owned that guy! “Oh you don’t like, global warming? Just go live like an ascetic for the rest of your life. That won’t affect the course of climate change, but at least you won’t be a hypocrite!”
Fuck off with that shit. Take your gottems to Twitter or some shit
I was basically asking “how much does your emissions really matter to you”. If you dont care about how much your dollar being spent on stupid shit emits pollution then just say that. Say you are blissfully ignorant and refuse to change your ways because you are a baby and hope someone fixes problems you contribute towards.
My “contribution” to this “problem”? In the context of global climate change, my contribution is a miniscule, worthless fraction, a grain of sand in the Sahara. It is NOT RELEVANT to the conversation around climate change because it’s presence or absence changes nothing.
Your attempts to paint global warming as the product of individual action completely misses the point, and you wind up simply doing damage control for the oil barons, car manufacturers and jet-setters that are actually the cause.
Please lecture me as to how the people who sell things for the people are responsible for the things people choose to buy.
You can start a movement to reduce your consumption but you would probably not convince anyone. Not even anti capitalists want to reduce their consumption. Its much easier to blame oil barrons and car manufacturers rather than you wanting to enable them. Im sure you are looking forward to buying your next car or your new house or go on that European adventure you were looking forward to or buy a new gym outfit or go to that new bar or buy that new game or… thats just life right? Im sure you cant even imagine your life without those desires. And yet its their fault for providing that for you.
Im also sure you know nothing about supply chain. Nothing about regulation emissions. Nothing about reducing… but its so easy to say ‘eat the rich’ as if thats a catch all solution.
The car manufacturers wrote the zoning laws that turned America into a car-dependent hellscape. The oil barons lobby against every single initiative/bill that would reduce consumption of oil. In absence of government directives/incentives, people will simply do what is cheapest which, in a system designed by capitalists, is environmentally-unfriendly consumption. You seem to think that everyone who doesn’t want average global temperatures to rise should simply stop consuming goods, but doing that on a scale that will actually change anything is stupidly unrealistic and possibly cataclysmic for our current economic system.
Ugh im so bored I dont really care to do this back and forth anymore. Ill just say, I work at a large company(think walmart size) that my main role is basically to drive changes worldwide. I dont want to doxx myself but I work with many teams to calculate and have visibility into our emissions very verrry clearly. My team looks at many aspects including transportation to work, electric use in the buildings, waste etc. With that said, in all our calculations, direct to customer/distribution air shipments always makes up 90%+ of our CO2 impact at every one of our sites. This is not revealed to the public for multiple reasons. People lie on their LCAs all the fucking time. I would like to say that when I see what the EPA shows for business sector emissions I laugh and think they probably have their info wrong (at least for the business sector).
From my perspective, if we werent selling as much then we would have less emissions but its a catch 22. I keep thinking if we change our fleet to electric ground/ rail/ ocean only it could reduce impact by a lot but the customers would get mad for delays. I think at the very least the publics opinion on fast deliveries needs to change then we can learn to cut back. The best way to reduce emissions is to just stop buying. If you guys truly truly want to reduce emissions then just stop buying. This is why I said to reduce wages and lead to this rant. I cant tell you the complexities of the stuff you buy… it might have a fucked supply chain where they source raw material from brazil, assembled in asia, warehoused in the US and sold to EU… its crazy, but nobody even thinks of this.
I’ll probably leave it here. If you have suggestions, be my guest. If you want to scream at capitalism then i would think you are right but we need solutions not more angst.
Damn you sure owned that guy! “Oh you don’t like, global warming? Just go live like an ascetic for the rest of your life. That won’t affect the course of climate change, but at least you won’t be a hypocrite!”
Fuck off with that shit. Take your gottems to Twitter or some shit
I was basically asking “how much does your emissions really matter to you”. If you dont care about how much your dollar being spent on stupid shit emits pollution then just say that. Say you are blissfully ignorant and refuse to change your ways because you are a baby and hope someone fixes problems you contribute towards.
My “contribution” to this “problem”? In the context of global climate change, my contribution is a miniscule, worthless fraction, a grain of sand in the Sahara. It is NOT RELEVANT to the conversation around climate change because it’s presence or absence changes nothing.
Your attempts to paint global warming as the product of individual action completely misses the point, and you wind up simply doing damage control for the oil barons, car manufacturers and jet-setters that are actually the cause.
Please lecture me as to how the people who sell things for the people are responsible for the things people choose to buy.
You can start a movement to reduce your consumption but you would probably not convince anyone. Not even anti capitalists want to reduce their consumption. Its much easier to blame oil barrons and car manufacturers rather than you wanting to enable them. Im sure you are looking forward to buying your next car or your new house or go on that European adventure you were looking forward to or buy a new gym outfit or go to that new bar or buy that new game or… thats just life right? Im sure you cant even imagine your life without those desires. And yet its their fault for providing that for you.
Im also sure you know nothing about supply chain. Nothing about regulation emissions. Nothing about reducing… but its so easy to say ‘eat the rich’ as if thats a catch all solution.
Do i say lead by example.
The car manufacturers wrote the zoning laws that turned America into a car-dependent hellscape. The oil barons lobby against every single initiative/bill that would reduce consumption of oil. In absence of government directives/incentives, people will simply do what is cheapest which, in a system designed by capitalists, is environmentally-unfriendly consumption. You seem to think that everyone who doesn’t want average global temperatures to rise should simply stop consuming goods, but doing that on a scale that will actually change anything is stupidly unrealistic and possibly cataclysmic for our current economic system.
Ugh im so bored I dont really care to do this back and forth anymore. Ill just say, I work at a large company(think walmart size) that my main role is basically to drive changes worldwide. I dont want to doxx myself but I work with many teams to calculate and have visibility into our emissions very verrry clearly. My team looks at many aspects including transportation to work, electric use in the buildings, waste etc. With that said, in all our calculations, direct to customer/distribution air shipments always makes up 90%+ of our CO2 impact at every one of our sites. This is not revealed to the public for multiple reasons. People lie on their LCAs all the fucking time. I would like to say that when I see what the EPA shows for business sector emissions I laugh and think they probably have their info wrong (at least for the business sector).
From my perspective, if we werent selling as much then we would have less emissions but its a catch 22. I keep thinking if we change our fleet to electric ground/ rail/ ocean only it could reduce impact by a lot but the customers would get mad for delays. I think at the very least the publics opinion on fast deliveries needs to change then we can learn to cut back. The best way to reduce emissions is to just stop buying. If you guys truly truly want to reduce emissions then just stop buying. This is why I said to reduce wages and lead to this rant. I cant tell you the complexities of the stuff you buy… it might have a fucked supply chain where they source raw material from brazil, assembled in asia, warehoused in the US and sold to EU… its crazy, but nobody even thinks of this.
I’ll probably leave it here. If you have suggestions, be my guest. If you want to scream at capitalism then i would think you are right but we need solutions not more angst.