• Kekzkrieger@feddit.org
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    5 days ago

    Good thing i dont use or have either, best time to delete your account and get rid of this shit.

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        5 days ago

        Yeah like… What’s the point of using xitter/meta alternatives if the servers are still going to federate with them? I’d use the normal apps if I wanted that.

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          3 days ago

          Please correct me if I’m wrong or missing something important! I know people have brought up good points in the past about this.

          I do not want to touch Facebook with a ten foot pole. Some people are network-effected into using it at least sometimes. Maybe their volunteer group uses it and only it to coordinate, and as I’ve learned from trying to get people to move off Reddit to the Fediverse, telling the group to move is easier said than done.

          I’d imagine things that can talk to Facebook allow them to carry on talking to whoever they need to talk to on Facebook without actually being on Facebook, and while giving support to some type of Facebook competitor that is not quite as corporate.

          Of course, there are concerns over things like Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, and if allowing them access to us is just making it easier for that to happen. But I imagine that is the thinking behind why some people do choose to federate.

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      Privacy-focused people have one more reason to abandon these companies altogether, so overall privacy should increase and improve.

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        4 days ago

        Privacy focused people don’t use any Facebook shit in the first place. So nothing’s changing here.

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      4 days ago

      many apps that come from the play store use trackers in their app to track users activity and preference. And social media apps are the worst, they use the data to serve personalized ads

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    5 days ago

    good move.

    Does anyone use instagram who isn’t advertising something ?

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      People you know in real life.

      I mostly left the platform over a bunch of little things that pushed me away (Explore feed going from friends of friends—things I’d care about—to ads and meme pages full of hot takes that would not get off no matter how much I put “Not Interested”; Shopping tab instead of Notifications; Reels existing in general, etc.) but I still have the account.

      It has some nice pictures of me and my friends that time ate the original copies of because I was like 10 and not perfectly diligent about making backups, and that I have not gotten around to saving the Instagram copy of yet. (Now that I say this I probably should!) There are some people I talk to over Instagram Direct Message because I do not have contact information for them otherwise and I like them enough to maintain the relationship but we’re not close enough for me to feel okay requesting a phone number. And finally, I have all those saved posts and tutorials that I never got around to and that I swear I’ll get around to someday.

      When I check back in to talk to some of those people I see other people I know in real life posting pictures from their personal life. You could argue they are advertising an image of themselves, how great they have it, etc. but some people are just posting their life—including the not-so-pretty struggles like that they just got diagnosed with cancer. And this is how I find out that some acquaintances had some major life event happen—and although we’re not close enough that I was invited I do hope that little “congratulations!!” comment I leave on their engagement picture makes them feel a little more seen, remembered, and appreciated—I know it would make me feel that way.

      I get the narrative is Instagram Bad, and I completely get why—I heavily decreased my usage of it for a reason—but that does not mean all the people left on there are also bad or Fake and Bad Overly Image-Obsessed Human Beings Making Your, Yes Your Self-Esteem Worse. I do wonder if Instagram would have acquired all these things I dislike if Meta did not buy it.

      I realize I am essentially network effect-ed into it, even if I touch it maybe for five minutes a week.

      Lemmy is not very private either but there are no corporations trying to sell my data, and I appreciate that. I spend much more time here than I do on Instagram. On the other hand, Instagram lets me bar off pictures taken in my neighborhood, pictures of me, pictures with some tiny detail that some weird stalker could use to figure out my location somehow, from anyone I don’t manually approve as a follower—so it feels much safer to post andioop’s personal life stuff there than it is to post on the Fediverse. I’ve been intending to look more into ActivityPub but as far as I know almost nothing (including Direct Messages) is private here. Maybe I should look into some kind of more private social network app actually meant for peoples’ personal life (I also recognize Lemmy’s purpose is not that) and try to pull my circle there?