I’ve never had a complaint about logging stuff in python. It generally does what I expect.
“Create a copy of your object and print that” is what I ended up doing, but I don’t think most people would say that’s intuitive. I expect if i print something at a particular time, I get what it is at that point in time.
Javascript passes objects by reference in most cases. Passing logging objects by copy would actually be an anomaly within the language. The only unexpected part is that the browser console doesn’t toString your objects instantly (for performance reasons mostly), but the same happens in other frameworks for other languages (though often with less latency, milliseconds most of the time).
As I’ve personally experienced, this can make debugging concurrency issues real fun! Pre-composing your log messages as a string (within the same critical section) will prevent quite a few weird edge cases.
The Python console doesn’t allow you to expand and dig deep into the object hirerachy of the thing you’re dumping. You either implement a string conversion handler or manually convert the object to a string as well, whereas Javascript doesn’t need the extra string pass and doesn’t flatten the log hierarchy. There are a few JSON logging frameworks you can combine with log aggregators that provide the same functionality, but that’s quite heavy and complicated to set up.
I’ve never had a complaint about logging stuff in python. It generally does what I expect.
“Create a copy of your object and print that” is what I ended up doing, but I don’t think most people would say that’s intuitive. I expect if i print something at a particular time, I get what it is at that point in time.
Javascript passes objects by reference in most cases. Passing logging objects by copy would actually be an anomaly within the language. The only unexpected part is that the browser console doesn’t toString your objects instantly (for performance reasons mostly), but the same happens in other frameworks for other languages (though often with less latency, milliseconds most of the time).
As I’ve personally experienced, this can make debugging concurrency issues real fun! Pre-composing your log messages as a string (within the same critical section) will prevent quite a few weird edge cases.
The Python console doesn’t allow you to expand and dig deep into the object hirerachy of the thing you’re dumping. You either implement a string conversion handler or manually convert the object to a string as well, whereas Javascript doesn’t need the extra string pass and doesn’t flatten the log hierarchy. There are a few JSON logging frameworks you can combine with log aggregators that provide the same functionality, but that’s quite heavy and complicated to set up.