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I tried to go cold turkey but only lasted a few weeks before the doctors put me on a forced feeding tube.
Was it at least on a sandwich?
Too big to fit in the tube. Only mashed potatoes for him.
I’ve said for years, the one thing I envy of people quitting alcohol or other drugs, is the simplicity of the rules.
In their case the rule is just “No”. At every time, place, or circumstance, no matter what, it’s just “No”.
It would be so nice if food was that simple.
@Steve @shish_mish There is one rule I follow: no packaged snacks. Any snacks I want, I make at home. I got into it for environmental reasons, but after I went vegan, it was the main principle stopping me from going for all of those vegan junk food options. Instead, I make bliss balls and, occasionally, cookies or other treats. Those combined with fruit make great snacks while not destroying my health.
Oh, I also pretty much always go for WFPB recipes, even for snacks.
WFPB?
@gowan Whole Foods Plant Based. So basically, not using any refined foods (think dates instead of sugar for sweetening something, for example).
It sort of is that simple. There are no addictive ingredients in whole foods. Fruit, vegetables, whole grains, non-processed proteins. People just have to make better decisions at the grocery store.
If you think that it’s simple, you’re extremely lucky to have that kind of chemistry in your brain.
You’re still eating food right?
My sister bought me a bunch of pastries for my birthday, and just left them in my refrigerator. Like seriously a problematic amount of pastries, that I had to schedule my days around. I work from home, and after a while, I just got used to deking into the fridge for a quick pastry. It was ridiculous, but also a lot of fun.
Anyway, when those pastries finally ended, man… the jonesing I felt when I realised I couldn’t just reach for a pastry all of a sudden…
Sugar baby. You developed a sugar dependency.
Note that no actual sugar is required to develop a dependency, because flour, and almost all sources of carbohydrates are effectively sources of sugar.
Once for my birthday my aunt baked me not one but two cakes! She couldn’t remember if I prefer chocolate or vanilla so she just made both. That was a week of indulgence I vividly remember, and my god at the end there I was so relieved those damn cakes were eaten omg XD
Chocolate can definitely be cloying after a while, I find. But a St. Honoré… foof, it’s like eating a rich, refreshing cloud. I could have kept eating it every day.
The sugar lobby says welcome to 30 years ago.
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Yeah, just about everyone is addicted to caffeine, but no one bats an eye. It’s only the drugs that were made illegal that people usually have issues with people being addicted to. All addiction is bad and we should try to have better resources and understanding to help anyone with any addiction.
Ehhh as an addict, I can say that there are some pretty big material differences between quitting smoking, sugar, alcohol, etc. Legality and how the substance is socialised are for sure huge factors in its perception, and how addiction is internalised, but yeah… there are real physical differences.
Not that you were necessarily making that point, but close enough, and I’ve seen it made before. No offense.
strongest addiction
That sounds like a big stretch…
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A person with a crippling addiction to sugar is going to look like a morbidly obese person. A person with a crippling addiction to heroin is going to look like that homeless person you’re picturing. But the obese person can have sugar delivered to their door on a daily basis, and the drug addict has to do some sketch shit to maintain their addiction.
Most people are far further down the scale than either of those two obvious examples, and may be indistinguishable from someone who isn’t actively addicted to something. Though, the 40% obesity rate night have something to do with that.
I don’t stop eating when I am full. I stop eating when I hate myself. And then some.
Yeah, it’s a serious problem for me. I’m largely channeling those feelings of hatred into reminding myself not to do that. Perhaps not the healthiest approach, but it’s been working so far.
I’ve got syrup in my veins for blood
As a person with chronic pain and depression…no shit Sherlock.
Not only have we had proof of this for a very long time, the entire US industrial food industry is built around making processed foods as addictive as possible.
The last part is what the article is about
I just finished off a bag of mini kit-kats “Eh, just 3 more” at a time.
true, I find I can only go so long before I’m jonesing for food again
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I thought we had generally agreed that anything can be addictive?
And this link is broken for me. Anyone else?
Yes, but there are different types of addiction. I made this comment on another post, but I’ll put it here too:
There’s a big difference between something being psychologically addictive, and something being chemically addictive.
Like, yea, you can technically get addicted to anything. But there’s a massive difference between getting addicted to, say, working out, and getting addicted to nicotine.
So food being chemically addictive is not something that’s been known for decades, in fact it’s been a common topic of debate.
okay ‘chemically’ vs psychologically is the distinction I was looking for, thanks.
Although if we give science enough time maybe they will arrive at the conclusion that its the same mechanism, ‘psychologically’ addictive just means a dopamine addiction as far as I know. Its still a chemical.
Been trying Keto for about a week now and I never really noticed my addiction to bread. Not the ordinary sandwich type bread, but the good stuff like naan and pita bread. Crackers and hummus, most soups, BBQ, anything sweet that isn’t sucralose-y. I’m making due with the low carb tortillas but it isn’t the same.
The only fast food that I can get reliably that fits in the diet is the grilled chicken nuggets at Chick-fil-A.
I do keto yearly to cut weight. Makes portions just very easy for me. For some quick fast food options in a pinch, McDonald’s triple with cheese* sans bun (easy to order on mobile), extra pickles/lettuce. Chipotle/Moe’s/Qdoba lots of options. I like a double meat salad with fajita veg, cheese, sour cream, salsa of choice, no rice/bean/corn salsa. Wings/salad at lots of pizza joints, verify they’re not fried. Panera salads, just check the dressings. Greek restaurants usually have a nice selection of salad or grilled meat and veg options just nix the rice or bread… and sadly hummus.
And the withdrawal could literally kill you
Vegans tend to argue cheese addiction via casomorphins. I don’t believe its scientific consensus at all this point but I personally believe it’s addictive. It was easily the most difficult to rid out my diet.
