• edric@lemm.ee
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    What would be amusing is if the Satanic Temple pushes to display their tenets as well, and it’s absolutely a way better list that you can show to kids compared to religious scripture. I know this is their modus operandi so I hope they take action as well.

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      Their tenets are amazing.

      THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS

      I - One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

      II - The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

      III - One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

      IV - The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one’s own.

      V - Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.

      VI - People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one’s best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

      VII - Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

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        I know little about the satanic temple, but I’m curious how they got to “commandments” that are basically good by any standard out of a character that has historically been viewed as a purveyor of discord and evil deeds.

        E: way to downvote, people. It was a legit question. I’m atheist so I don’t read anything about individual gods or their opposing deities unless it’s in a fantasy novel.

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          Because they don’t actually worship satan, rather exist solely to highlight religious (especially christian, given them being US-based) hypocrisy. The name choice and theming around satanic symbols was probably done more to symbolize going against the reality of christianity than anything to do with christian myths about satan, as well as to specifically piss off those christians that go on about religious freedom but are against the satanic temple getting the same freedoms as the christian church.

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          The whole Satan thing is just a metaphor for acting against Christian Supremacism. They don’t actually believe in Satan.

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          In addition to what others have said about the worship not really being genuine, in the Bible, the evil of Satan (whichever flavour that story is using) is mostly tied to his defiance of Yahweh. By definition, their god is everything that is good, therefore anything in opposition must be evil.

          The only time he performs unambiguously evil acts is when God gives him permission to fuck with his just loyal follower, just to prove to Satan that he would still be loyal, which has them both looking bad.

          Other examples of “evil acts” include encouraging humans to seek knowledge, encouraging David to perform a census, telling Jesus to try something else, “entering” Judas so he’d betray Jesus (which was also a necessary part of the whole Jesus salvation plan), accusing Joshua in front of God and being rebuked for it (which makes his whole timeline questionable because apparently he fell from heaven before humans were a thing but he’s there to accuse Joshua so Yahweh can rebuke him and reestablish Joshua’s legitimacy in a time when his grip on his spiritual power was tenuous).

          Because of all of this, there is a school of thought that says, if the characters and events in the Bible are real, maybe the whole thing has been a smear campaign against Satan because once you drop the whole “defying Yahweh is evil” assumption, Satan’s record looks a lot better than Yahweh’s.

          But the more I look in to the Bible, the more it looks like a transparent power grab and hold. Which was specifically the reason Constantine adopted Christianity for Rome, because he was having a hard time convincing people in Iberia and Gaul they should be fighting wars in Anatolia and the Middle East and wanted to use religion to give a common identity.

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      I do request though that they add an image of Baphomet caring over some children, it really shows he cares.

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    I’m pretty sure they have to allow it now. Unless, of course, they secretly hate the constitution and are wholly unamerican.

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    I love it. I want Louisiana classroom walls papered with every set of religious laws out there, to let kids know how ridiculous it all is. Not like they’re going to read even the Ten Commandments posters.

    Another part that sucks is that the schools are expected to pay for these posters themselves. None of the state’s budget was allocated to implement this.

    And both of those things are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to this law- https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/6/21/2247667/-Here-are-9-outrageous-facts-about-Louisiana-s-Ten-Commandments-law

    And yes, ‘outrageous’ is exactly the right word to use there, that is not clickbait. If you read that and are not pissed off about what Louisiana is doing to children, you sure as hell should be.

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    Ooh, we should have them put up the Five Commandments of Discordianism (a.k.a. the PENTABARF) too!

    THE PENTABARF

    The PENTABARF was discovered by the hermit Apostle Zarathud in the Fifth Year of The Caterpillar. He found them carved in gilded stone, while building a sun deck for his cave, but their import was lost for they were written in a mysterious cypher. However, after 10 weeks & 11 hours of intensive scrutiny he discerned that the message could be read by standing on his head and viewing it upside down.

    KNOW YE THIS O MAN OF FAITH!

    I - There is no Goddess but Goddess and She is Your Goddess. There is no Erisian Movement but The Erisian Movement and it is The Erisian Movement. And every Golden Apple Corps is the beloved home of a Golden Worm.

    II - A Discordian Shall Always use the Official Discordian Document Numbering System.

    III - A Discordian is Required during his early Illumination to Go Off Alone & Partake Joyously of a Hot Dog on a Friday; this Devotive Ceremony to Remonstrate against the popular Paganisms of the Day: of Catholic Christendom (no meat on Friday), of Judaism (no meat of Pork), of Hindic Peoples (no meat of Beef), of Buddhists (no meat of animal), and of Discordians (no Hot Dog Buns).

    IV - A Discordian shall Partake of No Hot Dog Buns, for Such was the Solace of Our Goddess when She was Confronted with The Original Snub.

    V - A Discordian is Prohibited of Believing what he reads.

    IT IS SO WRITTEN! SO BE IT. HAIL DISCORDIA! PROSECUTORS WILL BE TRANSGRESSICUTED.

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    Well, yeah, because of course!

    I’m waiting for the satanists to demand their scriptures with Baphomet too, come on, hurry up!

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      The Seven Fundamental Tenants of TST removed from any other context are pretty decent guidelines for life. #4 gets a lot of flack, but I feel like it’s counterbalanced by #7.

      So people don’t have to Google:

      I. One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

      II. The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

      III. One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

      IV. The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one’s own.

      V. Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.

      VI. People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one’s best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

      VII. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

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        I’d say respecting ones freedom to offend is important.

        While I can respect that someone has the freedom to say offensive shit, I don’t have to respect them for exercising that freedom and can call them a fucking idiot, thus exercising my own freedom to offend.

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        4 is essentially paraphrasing Voltaire. Belief that offending someone is a violation of their rights leads to authoritarianism and censorship. 4 says you can be a dick; 1 says you really shouldn’t be and 6 says you should apologize when you are.

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          Most of the shade I have seen thrown at IV is based on somewhat overly Libertarian quotes from the founder Lucian Graves. The organization as a whole leans extremely left, so some were caught a bit off guard. I’ll have to dig it up, it was years ago, but also Lucian is not a perfect individual (nor is anyone).

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        I. One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

        No wonder Republicans don’t like them.

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        Tenet 4 has to exist to cover their own asses. TST exists as a means to build a counterpoint to the reach of other religions within public services, so the snowflakes perceive it as “existing to offend” religious (christian) people.

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          TST exists as a means to build a counterpoint to the reach of other religions

          False.

          TST is just as real and valid as any other religion.

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            Where did I say TST isn’t a religion? TST can be a religion without depending on belief in a deity (or deities) or some other omnipotent being. That doesn’t make it a non-religion, but it certainly does oppose most other existing religions.

            From their website’s FAQ:

            The Satanic Temple believes that religion can, and should, be divorced from superstition. … To embrace the name Satan is to embrace rational inquiry removed from supernaturalism and archaic tradition-based superstitions.

            Your conflation of my statement with delegitimization of TST as a religious organization is quite a reach.

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    These dipshits have to be stupid to not see this coming right?

    I mean you don’t get to 47th in nation by chance!

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      You haven’t met Christian fundamentalists, have you?

      Like most religious fundies… they’re extra special.

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      I think they want to go to court now that there are compromised judges at every level; that’s the only way to create the Christian nationalist utopia they desire.

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        “An ye harm none, do what ye will”

        Wikipedia

        Disclaimer: I am not Wiccan, except for the mandatory year every highschool girl experiences.

        (This is not meant to be dismissive of the faith, just a joke about shared experiences. I love my pagan sisters and others)

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      That will just give Louisiana justification to put up the Nazi ones too. “It’s just a religious symbol!”

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    fuck these people, don’t force your religion on people (especially children).

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    Since apparently the teachers will have to provide the posters themselves as it wasn’t added to the school budgets, I wonder if they can get away with having the 10 commandments being written in comic sans oR LiKe tHiS and have the SpongeBob meme to go with it since technically, the commandments are still being displayed.

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    I worship Cenobites and I want to see Lament Configurations in every class room! Let’s tear some souls apart!