I am still surprised by how people get (understandably) outraged at the IDF online but seem to forget that Hamas took those hostages in the first place. A lot of this bloodshed could be stopped right now if Hamas released them.
Sure, the Israeli government is fucking insane, but there are two sides fighting this war.
Also the IDF was fired upon when they raided. That makes this just war. Hamas chose the war zone.
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the IDFHamas was fired upon when they raided in October. That makes this just war.HamasIsrael chose the war zone.Swap the word Hamas with israel every time you think there’s a great argument to post. Helps to avoid advocating for the murder of civilians like some crazy extremist.
An extremist would say that this can’t end until one side kills the other, so might as well get it over with.
I don’t believe that. I think as humans we have an obligation to try for peace without murdering half a million people. Unlike most people here, I want to believe that someday both sides can find a way to peace.
But if you insist that one side is good and one side is bad, then this can’t end well.
I would argue that one side is fighting to achieve peace while the other side is fighting for the destruction of a population and the annexation of their land.
Remind me again who is rejecting the ceasefire offers.
I would argue that one side is fighting to achieve peace
Hilarious. Which side is that?
(The second part I won’t argue. The inevitable annexation is deplorable.)
Hamas is has laid out a very clear and peace plan and has even agreed to a 2 state solution.
Objectively looking at the situation one cannot say that there are two sides which do not want peace.
Only one side does not want peace, and that is israel.
If Hamas hasn’t given up their hostages, they must not be that interested in peace.
You seem to forget that israel took hostages in the first place and the reason Hamas kidnapped people is literally to swap them for the hostages kidnapped by israel.
That’s my point here, blaming just one side makes no sense. Both sides have been committing atrocities for decades.
Yet one side is trying to reach a peaceful solution. Hamas.
You can be mad about Hamas using violence but we have left them no other option.
In the West Bank israel is committing Genocide as well. And those people have been trying the peaceful way for decades. And we do not condemn israel for doing so. In fact we keep supporting them and sending them the weapons to commit Genocide and help colonists annex more land.
Israel has made it extremely clear that they will never agree to a peaceful resolution unless they are forced into it. Both with words as with actions, they verbatimly state that they will never agree to let Palestinians have a state.
So no, there is no both sides. There is one side constantly punching the other and the only reason the other side hits back is because it wants the israeli side to stop hitting them.
hamas should have just surrendered and none of these innocents have to die.
this is on hamas.
It’s this simple. If a single innocent child is between you and your military target, and you kill the child to get to the target, then you’re a villain. Are you as much of a villain as the person you killed? Perhaps not. But are you a villain? Yes.
nah,it’s simpler, hamas shouldn’t be using children as shield like a coward and take what’s coming for them like the man they claimed they were.
villian i may be,coward i am not.
Yea, bad guys shouldn’t use civilians as human shields.
That doesn’t give someone else the right to shoot the civilians to kill the bad guys.
that’s true and hamas doesn’t give a shit is a child dies. they much prefer to kill the israelis and if the child dies along the way, it’s justified.
Without a doubt. Israel shouldn’t be killing innocent civilians just because the terrorists are hiding in an apartment building, you know?
and terrorists like hamas shouldn’t be hiding in civilian buildings if they are such holy warriors.
fuck these cowards using civilian as shields.
Let me quickly condemn Hamas before I step in to tell you that I’m so sick of reading „Hamas uses human shields“. The IDF is quite literally doing the same. Do you condemn the IDF?
That being said, it seems like an absolute waste of energy to use human shields against Israel, because they do not give a shit about civilians. They even shot their own hostages who were naked, unarmed, writing SOS and speaking Hebrew.
According to UN officials this could amount once again to war crimes. Do you think it’s Hamas‘ fault that Israel is committing war crimes? That Israel is committing genocide to name the crime of crimes?
i condemn the idf for killing innocents and their own hostage. there isn’t any argument concerning the killing of innocents.
i do however hold hamas ultimately accountable for these atrocities if they hadn’t started that shit on Oct 7th.
idf is responsible and accountable for sure but the situation today is still ultimately a response to hama’s actions and they are ultimately responsible and accountable for the tragedies that’s happening.
