Recently there a situation between Vaxry the developer of Hyprland and Lyude Paul a member of the Freedesktop Board and Code of Conduct enforcement team and ...
Just putting this here cause I found it a good overview of a pretty confusing situation I had no prior knowledge about
I agree but what I find weird is the fact that they treat humans like this. I mean I get missgendering or refusing to call someone by their pronouns but dehumanising someone for who they are is fucked up.
Misgendering someone by mistake is just a misunderstanding. Misgendering someone on purpose is a form of hate speech or at best, willful ignorance. It is a not so subtle way of dehumanizing them in not recognizing them as who they are.
Why would it be hate speech? I’m not doing it because I hate anyone, I just don’t have enough fucks in the bag. I don’t mean it’s a subtle way of dehumanising, I mean that what they do calling people slurs and telling them to kill themselves etc etc is fucked up.
Why would it be hate speech? I’m not doing it because I hate anyone, I just don’t have enough fucks in the bag.
You’re unwillingness to do the bare minimum of simply addressing someone by their preferred pronouns means you’re either okay with misgendering people or you intentionally want to.
If, however you mean what you say in that you don’t intend to dehumanize those who wish to be called by their preferred pronouns, then I highly suggest you find those fucks and give them.
Its not an urge. It’s a correction. If I tell you my name isn’t Joe, it’s John, and you continue to call me Joe, I’ll have to assume you’re either crazy forgetful or purposefully being an asshole.
If I tell you I’m not he/him, but she/her, and you continue to call me he/him, it’s the same thing. Prove me wrong.
In my experience, those that asked to be referred to as they/them identify as being non-binary, though in reading more on the topic, this is not always the case.
I only adopt the pronouns of those that the person in question expressly asks to be referred to as. Otherwise, if the pronouns are not explicitly mentioned, I default to the pronouns of the gender I perceive said individual to be presenting as until otherwise corrected.
In my opinion, it’s simply a sign of mutual respect and acknowledgement that I recognize their identity as they proclaim it to be.
I agree but what I find weird is the fact that they treat humans like this. I mean I get missgendering or refusing to call someone by their pronouns but dehumanising someone for who they are is fucked up.
Misgendering someone by mistake is just a misunderstanding. Misgendering someone on purpose is a form of hate speech or at best, willful ignorance. It is a not so subtle way of dehumanizing them in not recognizing them as who they are.
Why would it be hate speech? I’m not doing it because I hate anyone, I just don’t have enough fucks in the bag. I don’t mean it’s a subtle way of dehumanising, I mean that what they do calling people slurs and telling them to kill themselves etc etc is fucked up.
You’re unwillingness to do the bare minimum of simply addressing someone by their preferred pronouns means you’re either okay with misgendering people or you intentionally want to.
If, however you mean what you say in that you don’t intend to dehumanize those who wish to be called by their preferred pronouns, then I highly suggest you find those fucks and give them.
The fact that we live in a society, where someone feels the urge to tell me how to gender them, and expects me to do so, is just absurd.
How silly would it be if I were to tell everyone I meet to call me “your Highness” or else I’d be pissed and throw a tantrum.
Its not an urge. It’s a correction. If I tell you my name isn’t Joe, it’s John, and you continue to call me Joe, I’ll have to assume you’re either crazy forgetful or purposefully being an asshole.
If I tell you I’m not he/him, but she/her, and you continue to call me he/him, it’s the same thing. Prove me wrong.
What about adopting they/them?
In my experience, those that asked to be referred to as they/them identify as being non-binary, though in reading more on the topic, this is not always the case.
I only adopt the pronouns of those that the person in question expressly asks to be referred to as. Otherwise, if the pronouns are not explicitly mentioned, I default to the pronouns of the gender I perceive said individual to be presenting as until otherwise corrected.
In my opinion, it’s simply a sign of mutual respect and acknowledgement that I recognize their identity as they proclaim it to be.
Learn to give some fucks or don’t come back to lemmy.ml.