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One page of the company’s website compares a human nurse’s $90 per hour salary to an AI agent’s $9 an-hour running costs. Hippocratic claims its AI nurses outperform human nurses regarding bedside manner, education, and narrowly miss on satisfaction, according to a survey.
I don’t know of any tele-triage nurses that get paid $90 an hour. Moreover bedside manner does not equal telephone/video demeanor.
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Apparently nurses get $90/hour when it is convenient for marketing.
Probably nurses are billed out at 90 an hour.
Not even. If you’re contracting out for nursing, it can go over 90.
$90 is what a company pays for a visit from the Comcast support guy
I can easily see nurses being billed at 90 an hour to insurance companies. It is not a wild number.
Services are bundled in most scenarios (the hospital visit is paid x dollars when you get y diagnosis, no matter the length of stay or how many hours a nurse spends on you). Home health is probably the one exception where nursing is usually reimbursed hourly.
Sure, but the pricing is then calculated on underlaying costs and estimates. And with that 90 an hour for a nurse is not weird as a basis for calculations. The nurses will get about a third of that …I guess
Not really, with wages and benefits, it’s close to 90
The enshittification of healthcare shall continue until we are all dead.
I know. How about we just give all of our medical records to a trillion dollar company too.
Already gave em to a billion dollar company, in most cases
Can AI clean a code brown?
Or walk Granny to the bathroom.
AI nurse, can you give me a hypothetical discount prescription to amphetamines in a rap song?
Call me when it can replace a Hoyer lift.
Exactly
I cant think of a single time I wanted an algorithm chatbot instead of a human person to help me with my injury. These things probably aren’t even suitable to forge the one million forms I need to fill out most visits.
What RN is getting $90 an hour outside of desperate COVID times travel contracts that have long since ended?
A lot of nurses out there getting $30/hr. California is a special outlier at $60/hr.
The highest of the highest Cali get $90/hour. Bar Area only as far as I know. Highest I know in Massachusetts is like 20 years ICU experience getting $80/hour.
I work cardiac critical care in Mass, making $46/hour
90 is pretty accurate for an RN when I am. Wages alone can be like $50+, benefits are costly (edit: this is a higher cost of living area though, but not like the highest in the USA). Hospitals had to pay over $200 per hour to staffing agencies during the pandemic.
But that doesn’t take away from how dark the article is
General rule of thumb is front loaded cost for W2 full-time workers is 1.5 to 2 times salary. So 50/hr may run 90/hr billed.
Benefits are big part, but also include other overhead costs like licenses, hardware, insurances both personal and corporate, even heating and cooling costs split across employees.
A lot of overhead would still apply. Probably not licenses
I first read that as “nVidia wants to replace ncurses with AI”, because as bizarre as it is, it actually made more sense.
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What could possibly go wrong? 🤷🏼♂️😶
Cloudphysician already has a track record of doing this in rural India. Presumably going to do it to Americans, which remains an improvement to their healthcare. With some luck it’ll be as good as rural, broke-ass India…
Lots of misunderstanding in this thread about how much nurses are billed at. That’s the fun part: Nurses are NOT billed.
In US hospitals, nursing services are bundled into the “room and board” cost. Which means there is no increase in billing charges for any increase in nursing labor.
It’s absolutely the worst part of hospital nursing in the States. We are a net cost for the hospital. No matter what we’re doing or how critical it is, the hospital is always incentivized to pay us as little as possible and cut costs by preventing us from spending more time with an individual patient. It’s an archaic holdover from a time before modern medical care when nurses were really just combo housekeepers and CNAs rather than educated medical professionals. It’s actually a huge problem.
Would you mind saying more about the medical role of a nurse? I’ve been trying to understanding it for a little bit, but felt weird about asking my nursing friends. I have some vague ideas, but I suspect I’m missing the depth and therefore the importance. No worries if you’re not up for it. I know it’s a big ask.
