cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/16660104
Consider supporting Lemmy development or donating to your local server if you have the means. Peace!
I’m no expert but 1 in 50 donors doesn’t even seem too bad
Honestly that actually looks like a lot especially since this doesn’t seem to include 1 time donations and donating to your home instances.
I think the number is much higher if you consider all the people donating to their local server.
Plus your numbers seem off. For example, Librapay shows that there are currently over 300 people with weekly donations. Where are past or one time donors listed?
Patreon is paying out $2k a month, and has over 400 donors.
Your number seems much more like the number of regular donors rather than the total number of donors ever.
Right. My instance maintainer accepts donations via Ko-fi, which isn’t even listed here.
The links here are specifically the donation links to donate to the Lemmy devs. So even though they link to Open Collective, that’s specifically the Lemmy dev one. There are others for other instances.
Sure, but the body of the post mentions donating to devs and instance owners. I’m being pedantic I know, but I think it would be a more informative post if it’d made clear what the donation numbers refer to and what they don’t.
I just took it from the stats on join-lemmy.org. I’m not sure how it’s determined.
Yeah, that’s the number of current donors with a regular donation. They have a goal of supporting 3 devs full time from regular donations, and this is showing their progress towards that goal.
Surprisingly high number. Gold rate.
Is there any transparency around the donations?
- What’s the sum of the donations?
- What’s the split between reoccurring donations and one off donations?
- How many mouths does it feed?
- How many of those mouths are full time?
- What’s the split between the mouths?
Our current donation amounts, summing from the various platforms, and live updated every few hours, are here: https://join-lemmy.org/donate
Currently we have 2 full time devs(nutomic and me, splitting ~1 dev salary, as you can see from the above link), and have 2-3 more that we’d like to add as fulltime to our little dev coop.
We’re also in the process of getting another year of funding from NLNet (we’ll announce this once its finalized), which will go to the new devs we’re trying to onboard.
Is there a difference between a donation and a sponsor? As in are the NLNet contributions included in that €4k value?
Since you’ve used different terms it makes me think they’re different.
We sometimes get one-off crypto donations, but they’re pretty rare. The totals on that site are the recurring donations / sponsors, which helps make it easier to estimate our yearly budget.
NLnet is separate from that above also, and was what made lemmy possible by letting us work on it full-time, for most of its history. We’ve been trying to shift to a sponsorship / recurring donation model, as that’s more sustainable for the future, and will let us grow the co-op better.
Ah okay, so it’s not as transparent as it seems? It sounds like some of the contributions are hidden.
No, everything is transparent.
NLnet is separate from that above also, and was what made lemmy possible by letting us work on it full-time, for most of its history.
Forgive my misunderstanding. I don’t understand this sentence then. I read it as the NLnet contributions are not included in the €4k value. May you clarify please?
Why have you chosen to not clarify?
Excellent questions. I’d be more likely to donate if there was a page answering them.
A Dev responded here https://lemmy.ml/comment/9565132
I’ve just donated!
😎 <- you
Good reminder. Subbed to patreon
That number seems a bit low, but it’s really important to support Lemmy and your instance.
I’d love to support my instance, but it ain’t doable for now (at least it wasn’t when I looked into it around Christmas).
I also think accepting donations demand some organization with taxes and everything. That’s why some instances don’t accept them.
Hey, if you can’t swing it right now, that’s totally OK. The beauty of FOSS is how accessible it is.
Well I can but my instance doesn’t accept money for now.
I guess all the steps you have to go through to accept donations are disuading some maintainers.
Kinda reminds me of youtuber asking people to suscribe their channels because most of the users watching their videos are not suscribed, it’s not gonna change, but in this case, it would be nice if people could donate, i personally can’t, i wish, but i can’t
I can and do donate to the Lemmy project. I should also donate to the instances I use. I’ll donate for you as well, I don’t even need Netflix.
How am I supposed to donate to a project that forces me to select the language at the end of each post?
Fucks sake, is it that hard to have a dropdown under settings for the default language?
And to be fair, what’s the point? The people running the biggest instances will eventually sell all their user’s data to train LLMs anyways. There’s no guarantee they won’t.
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Majority of people in this world speaks two languages or more.
And that’s exactly the point, I do too. However most of what I post is English and lemmy should have a “default post language” option to avoid that issue. I’m happy with changing the language to anything other than English on the 20% of the time I’m not writing in English however I’m not happy to have to pick English around 80% of the time. See the problem now?
Since all instances mirror comments on subscribed communities you could simply create your own instance, leech it all and sell to LLMs. No need to go to the trouble of hosting a large instance.
Or that.
Fucks sake, is it that hard to have a dropdown under settings for the default language?
There is a language setting. Also, you don’t have to select a language, it’s optional.
The people running the biggest instances will eventually sell all their user’s data to train LLMs anyways.
Pure speculation, no evidence.
There is a language setting. Also, you don’t have to select a language, it’s optional.
See you don’t know what you’re talking about:
I’ve my languages selected yet there’s no option for a default language.
@TCB13 @CowsLookLikeMaps I sympathise, but perhaps they could fix that and many other issues if they had more funding. If it was already perfect, they would have less need for funding, I suppose.
I couldn’t agree more.
