• woelkchen@lemmy.worldM
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    9 months ago

    Bit of a red herring to put GDPR in the title when the article is about Lemmy missing key admin functions, and only tangentially how this runs afoul of GDPR.

    I haven’t read the GDPR, yet, but it’s still a serious issue – GDPR or not. Imagine if Instagram did that. Everybody would seriously go bonkers and rightfully so.

    System administrators often aren’t software developers. Lemmy users need to trust Lemmy admins and Lemmy admins need to trust Lemmy developers. Maybe not letting users delete any uploaded media isn’t outright illegal, maybe it is. I’m in the camp of it being definitively not cool.

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      9 months ago

      Inflicting lawyers on an open source project is a great way to drive off the developers.

      If I hear Lemmy has a GDPR problem I assume it’s lawyer BS only European instance admins have to worry about.

      If I hear Lemmy has bugs in basic CRUD functionality, that’s a real issue.

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          9 months ago

          Yet GDPR requires if you operate anywhere but allow European citizens to register, you have to be GDPR compliant as well, or risk being blocked by an entire continent.

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            9 months ago

            You can get fined by the entire continent. And you would need to pay up in that case, if living in the US for instance. The laws aren’t toothless, otherwise everyone would be abusing them, instead go to any US news site in Europe, and they’ll tell you they can’t serve content to you for legal reasons.

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              9 months ago

              Oh for sure they will try to fine, but being another sovereignty they have no authority to force a payment.

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                9 months ago

                Yeaaaah no. Look it up, you still have to pay up. It’s insanely good for EU citizens. Look at the top fines - Meta, Google, Amazon, Instagram, Facebook, with fines being tens of milions of dollars. The US works with the EU and you still get fined.

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                  9 months ago

                  Ofcourse they do, because they want to keep their business working in Europe. Which doesn’t apply to a decentralized system like the fediverse. But they do not have to pay the fine if they shut down all operations within Europe, which no company wants to do.

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              9 months ago

              The laws aren’t toothless, otherwise everyone would be abusing them,

              Have you heard of such small indie developers such as Google, Amazon or Facebook?

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        9 months ago

        If I hear Lemmy has bugs in basic CRUD functionality, that’s a real issue.

        Coincidentally I saw bug reports by that person and another person earlier that day (before the blog post was published), including one opened months ago with absolutely no reaction at all of even acknowledging that this is even an issue: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3973

        I’ve heard from time to time that Lemmy developers can be difficult to work with (I never worked with them, so I make it clear that this is hearsay) but I have the suspicion that there is some merit to that.