• Pons_Aelius@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    That could is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that headline.

    Also, we can barely get OEMs to support phones for 5 years now…

    • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      9 months ago

      I’d say, 10 years is more than enough, the device is practically unusable after that, even if it’s still working.

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        9 months ago

        the device is practically unusable after that, even if it’s still working.

        Not if you can change the battery…

        I am having to retire my 7 year old S5, which still works perfectly, because 3G networks are being switched off in a couple of months.

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          The S5 is from 2014 which this year makes 10 years.

          Pons_Aelius says: “the device is practically unusable after that, even if it’s still working.”

          You say: “Not if you can change the battery”

          AND THEN YOU GO ON to tell that your 10 year old phone is working but practically unusable, confirming in the most spectacular way, that Pons was right all along, even matching your very own experience to the point and date! And you still started your argument against it.

          It’s amazing really. Bravisimo.

        • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOP
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          9 months ago

          It won’t work with modern apps in about 3 or 4 years, or even if it does, it’ll be so slow, it would practically be unusable.

          I have an Asus Zenfone 3 Max from 2016. It has 8 cores @ 900MHz and 3GB of RAM. I only use it for BT auido streaming (play music on a modified audio system from the 90’s), that’s it. It can play YT videos at Full HD, but searching and acreen flipping is so slow, it’s practically unusable. Everything is generally slow on it, even browsing. It takes like 10+ seconds to load a more complex page (with media). Sorry, but that’s unusable to me.

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      9 months ago

      If this was an economically scalable proven thing today, phones wouldn’t be sold with batteries in 5 years.

      • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOP
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        9 months ago

        It is doable, but it’s not practical. Technology moves so fast nowadays, a 10 year old i7 is easilly surpassed by a modern day i3.

        Don’t get me wrong, I use old tech all the time, but it’s becoming increasingly impractical to do so.

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        9 months ago

        And they don’t support anything higher than 3G, which will go in history in a few years… and then the only thing you can use them for is a paper weight.

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    9 months ago

    Remember when light bulbs used to last decades? A phone battery that lasts that long is incompatible with capitalism.

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      9 months ago

      The battery is not the main point of failure in contemporary phones, especially not one that makes you buy new unit. This new radioactive battery doesn’t change much

  • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
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    9 months ago

    Sensationalized clickbait.

    100 microwatts, aiming for 1W in 2025. That’s a big difference and 1W is still not enough for a cell phone. Phone-scale batteries aren’t even on the roadmap.

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    9 months ago

    Some of the first pacemakers used radioactive batteries. We left that concept pretty fast. And that is considering you have to cut your patient open to change a pacemaker battery. This will not happen in commercial cellphones

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    9 months ago

    100 microwatts? What does a phone use, like 1W? So they are 4 orders of magnitude off? So phones need to become 10,000 times more efficient or the battery that much bigger?

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      9 months ago

      Betavolt is planning to boost its tech to produce a 1-watt battery by 2025. And while it still has some way to go, the company seems confident stating development is way ahead of European and American scientific research institutions and enterprises.

      RemindMe! 1 year repeat

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        9 months ago

        This is physically implausible. Also self proclaimed advances without 3rd party proof are less than worthless.

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    9 months ago

    So the reinventing of the Nokia is here. Capitalism probably won’t allow it unfortunately, the enshittening depends on degradation of everything

    • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      9 months ago

      True, true.

      Stil, it’s a nice idea… we can dream.

      I just pitty all those artists that envisioned the 21st century with flying cars and stuff like that… we still run almost everything on petrol.