The president’s speech at a South Carolina church did not go over well with the GOP candidate.

The president’s speech at a South Carolina church did not go over well with the GOP candidate.

Joe Biden gave a speech in South Carolina on Monday, and Nikki Haley isn’t happy about it. Specifically, she’s not happy about the part where the president called her out for her extremely cringeworthy comments about the Civil War, saying, “Let me be clear, for those who don’t seem to know: Slavery was the cause of the Civil War.”

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The issue of the Civil War—and her commentary on it—has come up for Haley in the past. While running for governor of South Carolina in 2010, she described the war as a matter of two sides fighting over “tradition” and “change,” adding that the Confederate flag was “not something that is racist.” She also claimed there was no reason to take the flag down from the statehouse grounds (until five years later, after the mass shooting at the Charleston church). After Haley’s gaffe in December, Jaime Harrison, the chair of the Democratic National Committee, said that her failure to mention slavery was “not stunning if you were a Black resident in SC when she was Governor.”

    • hansl@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      “The flag can’t be racist, it has black flag friends.” - Haley probably (note she’s used that excuse for herself already)

    • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
      010·
      11 months ago

      Notice how no one had a problem with the Confederate flag until 2015-16 thereabouts? It was just a symbol meaning “of the South” politicized and demonized unnecessarily…

      That said Haley is a god damn moron and a sociopath who can only look otherwise when compared to a bigger monster.

      • Che Banana@lemmy.ml
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        11 months ago

        Seriously? It was always a symbol for “racist piece of shit”, and most people did have a problem with it but just ignored it, like all the other racist piece of shit symbolism because the Voting Rights act passed and Segregation was defeated so racism ended…right?..right?

        Source: not born in the south but lived there, and am old.

      • prole@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        11·
        11 months ago

        Yeah no, as someone who was raised in a sane part of the United States, I knew what that flag meant before I even made it to highschool. And we all knew that the scumbags that still displayed the flag were racist pieces of shit.

        • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
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          11 months ago

          The ones I went to school with in the 2000’s were fine with it, heck many of them actually wore em on t-shirts. Because culturally speaking, it had more to do with BBQ around here than it did with racism.

            • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
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              11 months ago

              I will admit, we are a Blue County right outside a solidly red one…

              Drive cross the bridge into the next one over and it’s like stepping into a time machine to the fucking 40’s.

  • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
    2·
    11 months ago

    The Confederate flag isn’t even a flag, it’s a war banner.

  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    11 months ago

    Here’s the thing about the states that seceded - they drafted ordinances of secession with a declaration of causes for secession, and they all say they’re leaving the union because they want to enslave black people.

    There is no debate about this. It was written down by the confederates.

    Georgia’s first paragraph in their declaration of causes:

    The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery. They have endeavored to weaken our security, to disturb our domestic peace and tranquility, and persistently refused to comply with their express constitutional obligations to us in reference to that property

    Mississippi, second sentence:

    Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun.

    South Carolina, first paragraph:

    The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right. Since that time, these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue.

    Texas, 3rd paragraph in after babbling about dates and tranquility:

    She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slave-holding States of the confederacy.

    Virginia, first paragraph:

    the Federal Government, having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern Slaveholding States.