The back of a package of Upton’s chorizo seitan says “vegan & plant-based”. I’ve talked with a couple people about this before: plant-based isn’t inherently vegan, but there are only a very select few implausible ways to get food that’s (varying degrees of debatably) vegan and not plant-based. We’re talking, like, accidental roadkill, a hamburger you found in the trash, an animal killed in a dire survival situation… (Edit: Okay, I guess pure salt as a meal also applies.)

So Upton’s, I’m really glad you reassured me that it’s both.

  • GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.socialEnglish
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    23 hours ago

    I stopped eating Oreos, but never ate many, because processed & sugary, thus not good for us.

    I do not get it Palm Oil comes a plant & thus, it is Vegan. How would it not be Vegan?
    I do not eat Palm Oil, because it is horrible for The Living Earth & All Living Beings that lose their lands to new plams groves.

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
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      22 hours ago

      You’re totally right that they’re awful for you. They’re functionally just saturated fat (disproportionate to the mono- and polyunsaturated fats), complex carbs, sodium, and nothing else.

      Even excluding human rights abuses, modern palm oil production is almost comically unethical. It sustains itself by destroying the environment, prominently including mass-deforestation in the tropics – inflicting cruelty on an unimaginable scale to the native wildlife and, in some cases, even threatening their extinction. Veganism is:

      A philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

      So you can see how vegans often not just try to avoid it but may even consider it non-vegan.