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Update and shutdown?
What about update and I let your pc on all night without your knowledge?
God I forgot about that. Windows makes me so mad.
Microsoft doesn’t understand consent, not to mention user agency.
They probably do, they just see it as against their interest.
Considering the fact that most home users would never ever update their PCs unless forced too and then complain about a virus they got. It kinda makes sense to force people to update.
The same applies in any professional environment. Not forcing updates to clients in a professional environment is very stupid and will land you in trouble sooner or later.
There is a difference between scheduled update for security patches which the user agrees to on initial setup (and can modify at any time) alongside optional feature updates that are entirely… optional, and shoving feature and security updates automatically on the user regardless if active programs are running, without consent, and not granting an easy opt-out solution.
Windows only does that if you ignore the update prompts multiple times, which means for multiple days since the default delay behavior is to ask a day later. It’s literally in the settings, including options to have it install updates outside suer-set active hours.
But don’t let that get in the way of the realization that most people just ignore shit until the last second and then blame everything but themselves for it when they run out of options. And that the Internet jumps onto bandwagons faster than the speed of light just to feel like they’re included in something.
Windows: for clueless people!
Microsoft pushes too many bad updates for anyone to trust them to not push a bad update that bricks your system.
In the last 12 months alone, my team has had so many bad updates we’ve had to deal with. Just this month, there is an update that breaks a Microsoft product running on VMs…and yet they push the update anyway and we have to go through the process of reverting the update and doing what we can to prevent it from reapplying again.
Not to mention the forced restarts. I just restarted my machine less than a week ago. I get on the next day to find a bunch of stuff I was working on is now gone thanks to a silent update and reboot from the night before. No notifications saying “hey, we need to restart your device in 24 hours”. Just rudely interrupting whatever I’m doing and restarting with no regard for my choice.
The only good change Microsoft has made is not pushing incorrect driver updates. At least, in my experience. In the early days of Windows 8 when they started forcing updates, it continually would push a driver update for my laptop’s trackpad that broke functionality. I’d have to revert that stupid update multiple times each week and ended up giving up and just using a USB mouse instead after a while.
That’s some Crowdstrike.
My (very barebones) linux desktop has no way to ask me, it’s been removed.
I still can’t get over the fact that there’s just no way to prevent Windows 11 home edition from ever rebooting automatically.
I think you’re right but I wouldn’t be surprised at all by an angry “akshually…” reply in the near future. I’ve had multiple users claim they’re windows gurus and have literally never had an automatic reboot happen to them
Windows does a lot of sneaky reboots that it doesn’t notify about before or after. I dualboot and windows is not the default OS, so when I leave windows running and come back to linux, I know what happened.
Not quite true on my Ubuntu system. It offers to update stuff every 2 weeks (slowest time that isn’t “never”), and then wants a reboot at the end…
Cannonical (Ubuntu’s parent developer) is trying to become the Microslop of the Linux world. Just use a fork instead - plenty to choose from.
Fuck that reboot. It’s almost never necessary under Linux. Unnecessary, forced reboots in Windows are one of the last straws that made me fully switch my last remaining Windows system over to Linux.
At least it lets me reboot on my own time… But it is seemingly required to update some packages.
IMO they’re just being lazy. If you just reboot you don’t have to worry about resolving the dependencies for things you upgraded.
unattended-upgrades
totally unrelated, but 1) what are the words in superman’s hair; and b) has that always been there, and my dumbass hasn’t seen it until now, years after i first saw the meme?
1 Not sure - 2 No, usually is Robin.
lol thanks, i originally wrote robin instead of superman, but saw the colors and edited the comment, and thought “well, i guess i’m officially old now…”
