• luciferofastora@feddit.org
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    For people who don’t natively speak languages other than English, letters you’d get by long-pressing on a mobile keyboard or would need other modifiers or methods to type on a computer keyboard will seem like accented letters at best, special characters at worst.

    As a German, to whom äöü are separate letters from aou, I feel your pain, but I’m guessing you can see where people are coming from.

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      Don’t worry, it’s just a meme. I’m choosing to die on this stupid hill for the sake of it.

      While I’m at it, in Spanish we don’t have äö, but we do have ü, and in our case, it is literally just a ü with 2 dots, not a different letter. Same thing for áéíóú.

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        As in, two dots to mark that it’s pronounced as a separate vowel rather than merging with the previous one? Idk what the proper term is

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          It’s pronounced the same as a regular u. It is the same letter.

          They are weird rules, but in Spanish we have these rule:

          If a word has a “Q”, the next letter must always be a silent u. That is, you write a “U” but don’t pronounce it. And after that “U”, always comes a vowel.

          Similarly, if after a “G” comes a “E” or “I”, it is pronounced differently depending on if there is a silent “U” after the “G”.

          However, sometimes we want a non silent U after a Q or a G. In that case, we write “ü”.

          So u and ü are literally the same letter in spanish. We call the 2 dots “diéresis”, maybe it’s similar in German.

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            However, sometimes we want a non silent U after a Q or a G. In that case, we write “ü”.

            Then it’s similar concept: the letter combination qu is pronounced differently than q-u separately, and the diéresis indicates that they should be pronounced separately.

            In German, Diärese refers to the separate pronunciation of vowels, so the concept rather than the indicator. The indicator is called Trema, but it’s rarely used in German itself anymore. You just have to learn how things are pronounced, because of course we have to make things difficult. Can’t have learning German be easy, can we?