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Notice how they’re trying to smear the victim, not bring the perpetrator to justice
They’re doing it because murdering wine moms is the MAGA wet dream
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Doesn’t matter what groups she was involved in. Being a member of those organizations wouldn’t make it okay to shoot her. You have video of the event from multiple angles, including the shooter’s POV. You can see she wasn’t doing anything that warranted shooting her. Stop wasting our tax dollars on theatrics.
Does this open the door for the American gestapo to execute people based on association with “unapproved” people or groups?
Cancelling nationwide injunctions in effect does let them do anything without check, for months or ever. Disappearing citizens without warrant, that is where they are trying to go.
Or just have some hanging judges to sign everything, stuff them in camps in practical secrecy.
That door had been opened already by Obama.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki
This is the logical end when you have presidents that drone kill “pesky” US citizens and their family.
Still terrible, different thing.
This story from a few days ago is related: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/canary-mission-blacknest-doxxing-israel-potestors-united-states
Archive of NYT article - https://archive.ph/WRTxf
Archive of Atlantic article - https://archive.ph/bvvit
Why don’t we dig into ICE’s affiliations with Neo Nazi groups instead?
They’re already associated with MAGA, it doesn’t get much worse than that.
Because the trump FBI regards those as the ‘good groups’ .
Can’t the press get info on ICE agents via FOIA request? If they have info I expect an investigation would be easy. I don’t imagine these people are very quiet, or have a subdued online footprint.
Your heart is in the right place, I think, but FOIA is useless here. FOIA is cool if you want to know what an agency has on file about you (which is usually nothing) or learning the “truth” about JFK, EBEs, and UAPs.
Sarcasm aside, the most important thing to note about FOIA is that agencies handle their own FOIA requests; each agency has a staff (sometimes even a staff of one) for processing FOIA requests. FOIA is also a “devil’s in the details” type of law: you won’t have much luck with vague, open-ended, or ambiguously scoped requests.
Some information and data are exempt FOIA requests, including information about law enforcement activities or investigations, the personnel files or personal details of staff, and anything considered relevant to “national security.”
Even if the information requested is cleared for release, agencies know how to stall. FOIA requests are legally required to be responded to in 20 days or less… unless “the information needs to be closely reviewed and redacted before release,” “we’ve received too many requests for the same information to answer them in a timely manner,” or “our staff are experiencing difficulty locating the specific files that would satisfy the request.” Flooding an agency with FOIA requests for the same document or topic typically makes things worse until the amount requests becomes so high that that agency just dumps them online somewhere.
The last thing I’ll say is that a lot of FOIA requests only get satisfied after a lawsuit.
We already know
It’s not all public yet though
Yeah it should be done but I don’t see it changing things. “Proud boys, stand back and standby” during a presidential debate, and people were like “that’s great, I’m gonna vote for him.” If the actual American Nazi Party endorsed him or, hell, went to dinner at the WH, they’d just do some mental backflips and call it a good thing. America is fucked.
Abolish the FBI. Abolish ICE. Smash the state. We need mob justice.
Activism is not a crime
You are drawing the line too far back. That investigation is irrelevant. Even if activism was a crime, even if she was an al-Qaeda member or something, it’s not job of ICE to kill people. Besides, investigating if someone is a criminal after the “punishment” isn’t how justice works. These are both signs of brutal fascism.
Agreed
Yet.
You’re entertaining a bullshit narrative.
But even if she had been one, and even if it was a crime, that’s still no reason to shoot that person dead. And even if it was, how could he have known that already in the moment?
Totally agree with you
welcome to the end-game of a police state
Renee Good’s murder is a double crisis for Trump. Expect this to lead to even more extreme facist / dictatorship actions
- It draws attention to white America that they also have no rights protecting them from ICE.
- Impact upon Electoral swings.
Tactically, Trumps team will need to take the final step and make the US North Korea, or Renee Good will be remembered forever as turning point for America at the brink. The woman who spoke calmly to her murderer.
This comment reads like a bot pushing for people to wait hopeful for midterms.
We need to ditch this idea, we’re dead by midterms, so take aggressive action today.
Lemmy is full of trolls pushing for violence. That’s a weapon that may need to be deployed on the future, but we still have some legal steps to take, including the Midterm Elections I’m November.
If they allow them to happen, then we vote, and take it from there. It is likely to be a bloodbath win for the Dems, and then MAGA will have to turn over power, something they don’t do so well, historically, so that will be an important moment.
I’m fact, the Midterm is looking so bad for MAGA, that they’ve had a record number of MAGA Congressional Reps retire because they are reading the writing on the wall, and don’t want to be around when deserved justice starts.
They’ve also had a number of resignations, like MTG, one guy suddenly croaked, and another geezer got in a bad car accident, so the MAGA vote lead in the House is only a couple of seats. If they lose any more, the House majority may flip BEFORE we get to the Midterms, and it won’t matter if Trump suspends the election.
But if he does suspend elections, THEN it’s on. America has never suspended an election, not even during the Civil War or WW2. That is a BRIGHT RED LINE that must not be crossed. If he does that, it is the OFFICIAL end of American Democracy, and we owe no loyalty or obedience to the abomination that is MAGA America.
But until then, we do it legally, until all those options have been exhausted.
Sadly, just a frustrated individual trying to see which way the ralad will go. Hopefully, I’m wrong. That said, we must remember Renee and all others
What exactly does that have anything to do with murdering her? I don’t care if she was the president of Antifa, Tren de Aragua division, what they did to this woman was a straight up hit. Douchebag wanted to shoot someone so he did.
What exactly does that have anything to do with murdering her?
Because they’re going to get away with it. This is how they’ve chosen to do that.
I think it was more than wanting to shoot her, I think he had orders to do it.
In her disingenuous rationalization speech, Puppy Killer went into detail about how often cars were being used to block ICE, and it was clearly frustrating. This strategy was working, and they were pissed about it, and wanted the practice to end.
So they were ordered to watch for a vehicle blocking situation, and deal with it decisively, and send a message. As usual for the virtuosically incompetent MAGA, they fucked it up, and instead of the public being intimidated by the action, it inflamed them far beyond where they already were.
So who conceived this plan, and who gave the orders? How far up does this go? Noem? PeeWee Himmler? Trump? Somebody ordered a violent attack on an American citizen who was only exercising their 1st Amendment Rights, and we need to know exactly who that person is, and charge them with murder.
What exactly does that have anything to do with murdering her?
The public is brainwashed to hate and consider less anything that gets labelled by authorities as negative
Right? Police executing criminals is bad, too. This is some weird, authoritarian, Judge Dredd fantasy.
Examining the murderer’s activist ties would undoubtedly be more fruitful.
He is hardcore maga, I think some questionable group memberships too.bb
Oh, are we calling the Proud Boys and KKK “activist groups” now?
I believe the term is domestic terror organization.
Oh yeah they killed her because in that moment he knew she was actually really bad.
Entirely irrelevant classic infowar propaganda bullshit for more twitter shitlord talking points.
Let me guess, did the bullet not kill her, but the fentanyl did? Was the fentanyl driving the car?
and when they don’t find anything, they’ll make something up.
They’ll make something up or plant something fake, RIP to Luigi for that cop planting a firearm in his bag after she got back to the station
They’ll just say she’s ANTIFA and keep to the terrorist narrative.
There’s nothing for them to prove about ANTIFA so they’ll just be able to keep lying about it because anything is ANTIFA.
It’s going to be their answer for everything.
They’re doing it because murdering wine moms is the MAGA wet dream
Well if you can’t make them your mother-wives what else are you supposed to do? View them as autonomous individuals?
Hey, FEEBS! I’m an activist. come get me brodawg.
I’m at your mom’s house. She’s really upset with you.
If you believe the exit polls, they very much do not want to murder wine moms. While more women voted for Harris than Trump, more white women voted for Trump than Harris. They just shot a white lady in broad daylight. Of the 53% that may have voted for Trump and have seen that video, I imagine a significant amount will think about their choices the next time they see their own glove compartment overflowing with stuffed animals and imagine what it might look like spattered in the blood of a parent to a newly motherless child.
I think the administration understands that and is resorting to damage control after flat denial didn’t work. That’s why the rhetoric is focused so hard on painting her as some kind of outlier. They just realized it could cost them the midterms and subsequently, impeachment or worse.
It’s become cliche with non-MAGAs, but we knew it was never going to stop with arresting Hispanic and Latino people, not that it would have been acceptable. It never stops with just one little infringement on the human rights of just one group. It’ll be the communists, then the socialists, then the trade unionists then Jewish people, then Catholic people, etc. as the poem goes.
But now, they’ve let the mask slip a little early. They’ve demonstrated to millions of voters who thought they were too privileged to be affected that those privileges no longer apply. I wish it were empathy and ethics that were going to change conservative minds, but self-preservation at least works in the short term.
Damage control? They made executing her a cause celebre. They are rallying around executing a citizen for insolance to fed officials.
If she was straight, maybe. I’m unfortunately not so sure they’ll care about open season on lesbians.
If they get pummeled in the midterms it’ll be due to the economy, not the murders.
Only if there are free and fair midterms. If they’re not canceled, they’ll be neither free nor fair. I live in a country where an authoritarian regime was voted in. Do you know what happened next? None of the elections were canceled, but all of them stopped mattering, they became circus shows that people only attend by force or to receive a not even that good reward for it. MAGA knows you want to pull them out of power and they’ve got the means to ensure their rule continues.
I wish Americans would just STOP waiting for the ballot box to right the wrongs. The time to do something is now.
I hope you’re wrong. There’s no way that officer knew her name at that point, much less her orientation. He was fully willing to, even if unknowingly, kill a heterosexual, Anglo-Saxon, Evangelical, stay-at-home mom as long as she was anything but politically right of center. Again, none of that demography should matter, but for those to whom is does, I hope they have or develop the common sense to know that this means they are and have been on the menu for quite some time now.
There’s no way that officer knew her name at that point, much less her orientation
Are they not using Palantir bullshit and stingrays and flock cameras and everything? I can think of several ways…
Not only that, but the wife was outside of the car filming and maybe said/did things prior to the footage to indicate they were together.
I hope I’m wrong too, but don’t underestimate the hoops people are willing to jump through to continue defining themselves as the in-group and every victim as the out-group.
