• Zink@programming.dev
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    Fun, fun, we skip along together!

    Swirling towards the center…

    Where there is no pain and we are truly together, forever.

    Eat at Arby’s

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      There’s also no reason to believe that expansion isn’t happening in a spheroid pattern. The big bang wouldn’t have been like a blunderbuss, more like a naval mine suspended in the abyss, exploding in all directions.

      For that matter, did the big bang ever cease, or has it continued to spew out new energy, and we’re just so inconceivably far out that our entire observable universe is just one small section of a relatively narrow range of distance from the center?

      Lastly, if the big bang is like a faucet, what if black holes are like drains in a tub, or in other words wormholes leading back to whatever realm everything came from before being spewed out by the big bang?

      Everything in the universe is cyclical; there’s no way something doesn’t complete the circuit, even if it’s just a big crunch.

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        This model does assume the big bang happened in a spheroid pattern. It’s just flattened to add time as an axis from left to right cause you couldn’t represent time otherwise.

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          You could represent time as the distance from center to circumference, although that wouldn’t be as readily comprehensible at a glance. It’s more like the image just shows a chunk out of that sphere

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        There’s also no reason to believe that the big bang happened at one “point”. I believe that the universe (and therefore the big bang) are infinite.

        Everything is relative, so something infinite can still expand: since there’s no absolute speed, galaxies can move away from each other everywhere, at all times.

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      I’ma have to come back to that. Aware of the concept, but not have much driven to the core concept. Little too tired to read, but thanks friend

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    Sun: “Hey, do you want toooo… go for a walk?”

    Planets: go apeshit

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    Did everyone forget about the galaxy? It’s also a giant circle, and the sun orbits it like we orbit the sun.

    Perhaps the real question should be “Where is the Galaxy taking us?”

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      “Where is the Galaxy taking us?”

      Towards the andromeda galaxy which is over twice the size of the Milky Way. We are hurtling towards each other at about a quarter millions miles per hour.

      For thousands of years after you die, that little fuzzy spot near Cassiopeia will slowly get larger and larger in the sky, and in about a four billion years, long after the Earth’s oceans have dried up and the sun is a giant, reddish monster hovering in the sky, and our magnetic field will have long since died out, our atmosphere will have been mostly stripped away and the weather will feel like being on the highest mountains in an oven, the night sky will be covered with a dazzling display of the Andromeda galaxy overhead, spiral arms visible with the naked eye stretching from horizon to horizon.

      We will merge, in a series of passes through each other, with almost no stars actually colliding most likely, although a good number will be ejected into the emptiness of intergalactic space, and will finally settle into a new shape, and may trigger a new phase of star formation as new clouds of gas and dust collide and collapse in the new super-galaxy.

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        Oh no you zoomed out to far and triggered the weird sensation. How bizarre it all is!! To know these things as little ape creatures. So small as to barely exist in a lake of space and an ocean of time. Whywhywhyhowwhyhowhowhow is any of this real???

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          You’re also made of 30-trillion little microscopic machines with vastly more complexity each than even the most fantastic clockwork we’ve ever devised, that are each working in harmony with each other, creating a vast machine that is continually breaking itself apart and rebuilding itself from parts of its environment as it moves through time and space.

          And somehow you can breath either manually or automatically without breaking a stride.

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        Knowing there’s no chance imaginable of being able to witness all this is so depressing… My death anxiety feeds on thoughts like this.

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          On the plus side, we live at a time where we can still observe the cosmic microwave background radiation and total solar eclipses.

          Since the moon’s orbit grows by 3" every year, after a few million years it’ll be far enough away that it won’t completely eclipse the sun anymore.

          And in a billion year’s time, the CMB will be redshifted so far into deep radio wavelengths that it’ll be impossible to observe

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        First thank you for filling in OP’s coverup of Mama’s intentions.

        We will merge, in a series of passes through each other, with almost no stars actually colliding

        So then, we’re just going for a ride to a farm upstate :(

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      Fun fact, we do not just orbit the galaxy in a circle, we also have a motion perpendicular to that circle. We oscillate up and down through the plane of the Milky Way. The Milky Way is super thin, like super ultra thin. If the Milky Way were a pancake, it would only be the thickness of a sheet of paper, a sad pancake indeed. However in terms of human scales it is still huge, so we have a large way to travel. Our galactic orbit is tilted as compared to the galactic plane, so throughout the cosmic year we move up and down as compared to the center. A motion of 100-200 light year, so pretty big. That orbit also has procession, so we move through different parts.

      The galaxy itself is also moving, although at that scale it’s easier to think of the galaxy to be stationary and other galaxies moving towards or away from us. In general we are all moving towards a galaxy cluster known as “The Great Attractor” as it is the most massive (except for your mom).

      It’s also often forgotten that our sun isn’t the only star moving in the galaxy. All of the stars orbit the galaxy in a lot of different orbits. And some don’t orbit at all, instead moving with escape velocity (or faster) to get flung outside of our galaxy. Some have their own orbit in companion dwarf galaxies that in turn orbit our own galaxy. It’s easy to think of a galaxy as a fixed thing, with all the stars in the same place moving together like on a disk. But this isn’t the case at all, stars aren’t bound together and can follow their own path. Over time their relative positions change and the constellations we know won’t exist anymore.

      The structures we see in galaxies like spiral arms for example are only structures in the same way a wave in the ocean is a structure. It is clearly a thing that exists, with properties we can at least somewhat constrain (like size for example). But the water inside that wave is just water like everywhere else. At one point it’s part of the wave and then at some point it no longer is. It’s the same for stars, sometimes part of a structure, other times not (although it gets complicated quickly if you dig into the details)

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    And like all good mothers one day she will grow into a red giant, engulfing her children and obliterating all life on earth.

    That is the true meaning of mothers day ❤️

  • I mean its kinda terrifying when you think about it from the perspective of someone who grew up in an abusive household

    “You will never leave my control”

    Either you get tossed to the curb by mom and you are cold and alone after being so used to the warmth and the plant is dead (flung out of orbit), or get murdered by her (red giant… engulf the system)

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    It’s my understanding that the specific direction on this relative motion graphic is just made-up, but it does do a good job of reminding people that we’re orbiting the galactic center.

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    The sun is not a sweet mother, he is armed with the great serpent Xiuhcoatl and demands the hearts of our enemies.

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    Does the sun actually travel in a straight line, or do the orbits of the planets wobble it, and to what extent?

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      I think the graph shows relative position of the planets from the sun, so the straight line is just a baseline.

      Like if you jump up and down on a plane, and the graph just shows you moving a couple of feet up and down rather than including the entire altitude change of the plane itself

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      Juipiter’s orbit wobbles it, as others said, the barycenter of the system is outside the sun’s radius, but the scale of the planets vs their orbits is so great such a small wobble is imperceptable if you can see multiple orbits.

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      Everything in the solar system (even the Son) orbit around the center of mass of everything in the solar system. This epicenter is just outside of the Son, on the side that Jupiter is. So the Son wobbles by a little bit more than 1 of its radii.

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      I am under the impression that straight lines don’t really exist in the Universe.

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        They don’t. There is new research where the universe is constantly expanding, while we are traveling in an orbit around the sun, the universe is exponentially expanding, growing outward kinda like a reversed funnel.