well I mean Trump is the dumbest president in history too, so…
Dumbest war in history for far and away the dumbest U.S. president in history?
Sounds about right.
You forgot most openly corrupt.
Dumbest war it is then. Remember Russia and Ukraine.
idk i feel like the emu war was dumber
Well he is a raging dotard, as was made clear in his first term.
“A superlative you say?”
Don’t say that to Donnyboy… he’ll get a red face and stamps his feet
As a member of a country that was until rather recently at war with Denmark, if the Americans want to fight the Danes, they’ll have to fight us too.
Well, this is the dumbest head of state in history. The only other one I can think of that comes close is Berlusconi, but at least he didn’t have the world’s largest military.
They want to kill nato but do not have the juice on their own. So taking greenland in adventurism they figure could overcome that, I suspect.
The president and many of his people are compromised by russia, and in league with them, (israel moreso but that is neither here nor there,) and this is what they want, to set nato against each other while he and the us secretly help far right client parties in those states get elected then fix themselves in power.
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There are several people who met trump personally saying he is the dumbest person they have ever met.
IDK, there have been a lot of dumb wars. I don’t think that’s a competition worth grading though.
Going to war with an ally over territory you have free access to has to place near the top though!
I’d call it a race to the bottom, personally, but it certainly is a strong contender in intellectual impotence.
Really shouldn’t have used a superlative, now Orangeman will want another subtitle.
It’s up there with the Falkland islands.
Never underestimate the power of large groups of dumb people doing very dumb things.
The redcaps are not a majority, but they got Donvict into office and Donvict probably has something like the Sarah Palin Floor for support - somewhere in the high 20s percent to low 30s percent, I’d wager. That’s millions of very stupid people that are cheerleading dumb things.
There are dumber ideas.
Invading Mexico or Columbia ranks higher. You know countries with people who have experience fighting guerrilla wars and have existing relationships with arms dealers.
Invading China probably takes top spot though. Don’t start land wars in Asia, especially with a peer state who has most of the world’s manufacturing capacity.
No, Greenland ranks higher than Mexico or Colombia I’m pretty sure. Because even if the US wins, there’s nothing to gain strategically, only lose. Greenland being part of Denmark which is part of NATO, the US can literally just ask Denmark “hey can we build military bases on your kewl island” and Denmark likely would’ve been like “ok sure” before all the recent shenanigans. The stated goals are literally achievable without declaring war on allies.
I don’t think Trump will invade China - or if he does, I don’t think that the rest of the chain of command would listen to him anymore. THAT would indeed be the stupidest thing he could do. Everybody will lose if that happens, but especially the US.
Even dumber because if we asked Denmark to build a base there they’d respond by asking if we really need another one
Not really. They’d ask if you’d not prefer to move back into one of the many bases that you have abandoned in Greenland and save some money.
How is it dumber to exercise militiary actions, in countries that are already busy in the CIA schedule and does drug operations on a weakly basis, than attacking a god damn ally which hasn’t done US any harm what so ever?
Invading Mexico or Columbia ranks higher.
The US has been conducting military actions in both countries for nearly a century. How many times do you have to bomb a place before you’re officially counted as “at war” with them?
Invading China probably takes top spot though.
We really really really don’t want China to regain control of Taiwan. I think it is very possible we get into a shooting war if a Chinese friendly government ever wins an election on the island.
We really really really don’t want China to regain control of Taiwan. I think it is very possible we get into a shooting war if a Chinese friendly government ever wins an election on the island.
If Taiwan itself elects a China-friendly government, it’s game over. Ain’t nobody changing that if the locals themselves willingly join China. If China invades Taiwan, I could very much see the US helping Taiwan though.
If Taiwan itself elects a China-friendly government, it’s game over.
Venezuela elected a China-friendly government and we responded by kidnapping the President.
If China invades Taiwan, I could very much see the US helping Taiwan though.
The US will describe any propaganda campaign or business arbitrage as an “invasion” and respond with lethal force. In US terms, any influence China has over the island’s public is a de facto invasion, because it threatens the US sphere of influence.
Venezuela elected a China-friendly government and we responded by kidnapping the President.
Venezuela didn’t join China though. In Taiwan, an actually China-friendly government would mean Taiwan becoming part of China and thus having Chinese protection from the US military. Short of reuniting the Chinas, there can be no mainland-china-friendly government in Taiwan because mainland China doesn’t want any relations that aren’t direct ownership of Taiwan.
Venezuela didn’t join China though.
They dramatically increased business with China to evade our sanctions. We responded by tightening controls over the Panama Canal and encircling the Venezuelan coastline to halt sea trade.
Short of reuniting the Chinas, there can be no mainland-china-friendly government in Taiwan
That’s simply not true. The current government in Beijing is happy with any thawing of tension and increase in trade/travel between Taiwan and the mainland, particularly with an eye towards increased private mainland investment in the island and high tech exports to mainland industries.
Improving the flow of trade between the island and the coast means predicating more of Taiwan’s economy on friendly relations with mainland industry. And that creates the kind of political gravity Beijing bureaucrats used to rope in Hong Kong, Singapore, and South Korea. Incidentally, its a salty subject for North Koreans, as Kim’s Juche philosophy staunchly rejects critical utilities and resources coming from outside the sovereign territory.
But the old line “China thinks in centuries” holds here. All Xi is working towards is reconciliation. The hand wringing about “Imminent Chinese Invasion!” is US bluster intended to justify severing civilian trade and travel with the island preemptively. Americans need Taiwanese residents to be terrified of Chinese incursion in order to alienate the island from Chinese business and culture. Because that’s the real long term play.
I agree it would be the dumbest war in history. And there was a war over a bucket.
To be fair, it was a nice bucket.
True. At least in that one the Bolognese didn’t already have the bucket.
I don’t think this dude realises that he is talking about the dumbest president in American history, but then again he did get into the White House TWICE, so i’m not really sure who’s stupider? him or those that put him there and are STILL rooting for him…
It shows you how rigged the voting system is in favor of the Republicans for the presidential election. They have rejected the illusion of democracy at this point let alone the practice.
They have gerrymandered, used religion, the courts, infiltrated voting systems, and not mention constant propaganda with a heavy reliance on othering people to ensure they win even when their numbers are less.
I think he might be the dumbest world leader in history, honestly.
Like, there have been some real morons throughout the world, but this guy really takes the idiot cake.
Republicans and the voters that voted Trump are definitely the stupider part of that situation. Being fooled by a fool makes you pretty stupid. Failing to detect the blatant lies of a pathological liar makes you stupid. Thinking the obvious flaming sociopathic narcissist is on your side makes you stupid.
The only way to be that stupid is by a lifetime of indoctrination that up is down. Americans have been indoctrinated for a century that freedom is the ultimate highest value, higher than life itself, without ever actually making a good definition of what freedom is! And Trump is a sociopathic narcissist, with no conscience no respect for anything or regard for other people and little self control, and that is seen by most of the American population as the ultimate expression of the freedom they idolize.
Americans are also indoctrinated to admire being rich, as a sign of skill and intelligence. And since Trump is rich and famous, Americans think he is intelligent, despite his fortune is based on his inheritance.
