• bearboiblake@pawb.social
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    Most buildings named after people are done because they donated money for it. In most cases it’s still kinda cringe.

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      Funding for buildings is sometimes driven by recurring donations in exchange for someone’s name on the building. These funds pay for deferred maintenance and renovations.

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        yeah it’s cool that buildings are maintained and so on, but it’s cringe to pay a bunch of money for clout. rich people basically view botting IRL

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            oh yeah rich people do that with movies, too! “executive producer” sometimes means “i donated to put my name here”

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    Trump is literally unable to see the difference. It doesn’t matter if it was but there by him or someone else, the important thing is that “big thing has my name on it”. He doesn’t see how miserable it is, in his mind he’s winning

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      This is a guy that wears shirts with his own name and branding on them. He’s as crass as they come.

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    That’s okay.

    It is mostly possible to erase a person’s legacy, at least in the physical sense. Egypt almost erased a whole-ass pharaoh from history. (Akhenaten)

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        You’re not wrong, but if DOGE taught us one thing, they taught us that it actually is possible to delete specific terms from every document in a government database.

        I don’t think the Dems will care enough to try it though.

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      Yeah just like how all of those Civil War Generals were erased from history for betraying their country for the sake of preserving slavery.

      Let’s be real. Americans are incapable of shame. As long as USA continues to exist, Trump’s actions will be whitewashed and there will be statues of him made in the future.

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        Yeah just like how all of those Civil War Generals were erased from history for betraying their country for the sake of preserving slavery.

        This is nowhere near an appropriate comparison to Akhenaten.

        Let’s be real. Americans are incapable of shame.

        The 2025 elections, where every Donald-won district from 2024 flipped, is empirical evidence to the contrary. It seems that people were on-board for a mass-deportation, but not for the targeting of legal immigrants and the military occupation of American cities.

        But sure. It’s your world and your algorithm. Think what you want.

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          You think Trump has done something worse than starting a war to preserve slavery in which about a million people died?

          You have fucking slave masters carved into mountains (stolen from indigenous people during a genocidal campaign) down there FFS. Being American is all about pretending the past was some glorious thing, and believing you have real principles. It’s a nation founded by hypocrisy and you feel like you have to preserve the hypocrisy because somehow that’s the source of freedom and equality.

          Americans only really care about wealth and power, and Trump has both. They’ll be carving his face into Rushmore (ignoring any protests of the indigenous people, because fuck them right?) within a few decades. This will be to express dominance over the people that don’t like Trump. A few decades after that they’ll be teaching kids in school how Trump was the greatest President in history because why else would they carve his face into a mountain. American history is just a tool for control, because you’re unable to question it. You worship Founding Father the same way they worship Big Brother in 1984.

          You’re incapable of understanding of how things really work in your country because your country demands you believe in the hypocrisy it was all founded on. Everyone knows how stupid your country is just we never told you because it would be rude like telling a child Santa Claus isn’t real. But now you’re not an ally. Santa Claus isn’t real and Founding Father was a slave owning oppressor. Whatever rights and freedoms you had came from voting (just like everywhere else) over many years, but y’all either voted for a fascist or didn’t vote at all, so you’re losing all of the rights and freedoms you believed a magical piece of paper written by fucking slave masters granted to you.

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    In german we have the saying “Eigenlob stinkt” which can be translated to “honouring yourself stinks” which fits perfectly here

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    There is also an escalation of this, between naming a building you own, after yourself and naming other’s buildings after yourself let alone monuments

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    Fun fact, the hollywood walk of fame is a bought honor, you pay for it, you get it. It’s not given out based on some achievement criteria

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      Yes and no.

      You need to have +5 years of history in entertaiment business and/or in community work and somebody else needs to nominate you. Then if the commitee acepts you and you pay the sponsor fee you get the star.

      But yeah. If you have lots of money and friends in right places you can pretty much buy it, but its not like any bluecollar worker can just take a loan and buy one for themself without any merit.

      Its not really that different than how people get wings in hospitals or libraries named after them. Except Hollywood star does not benefit normal people in any way.

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          I suppose a crowbar could lift it up, unless it’s laid in concrete or something? In that case a jackhammer could probably do it fine, but if you really wanna make sure it’s removed, you could drill a hole in the middle and put a bit of dynamite in and blow it apart.

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    Naming things after people frequently backfires. The person later turns out to be politically divisive, or a nazi, or a rapist, or a pedophile, or some other awful thing.

    I’m so tired of seeing “XYZ memorial highway” signs everywhere. And schools should just stick to naming themselves after the region (north/south/east/west), or going by PS numbers. It’s all just asking for trouble and a waste of taxpayer money.

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      See the perfect example: Star Trek Discovery namedropping Musk in-between the Wright brothers and Zephram Cochrane (in-universe inventor of the warp drive), and even having a high school named after him.

      This, mind you, happened right before his “pedo guy” comments - the episode aired in early October 2017, whereas Musk made the comment on 15 July 2018. So within a year Musk managed to kill off the respect of a large chunk of nerds just by letting his inner Nazi appear for a moment.

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        In my mind, I rewrote the episode’s script. Essentially, Elon laid himself down feet first in front of a steam roller, after giving away everything he owned to fund Universal Healthcare.

        So, they named a local elementary school after him, as it was literally the very least they could do after he was squeezed out like a tube of toothpaste.

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        It’s fascinating to think that if Elon hadn’t spent so much time hanging around with former sexpats such that the word Thailand meant paedophile tourism to him, America could have a functioning democracy right now.

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          Nah, the issue is much deeper rooted. fElonia has been a white supremacist moron for a VERY long time.

          When he sold his first company, Zip2, to Compaq, the latter said that the code was practically unusable.

          Later on, he funded the formation of the original X dot com, an online bank, where he fired all other founders within the first half year due to “creative differences”, basically stole their work, and within a year they merged with Peter Thiel’s PayPal/Confinity. A few months later Musk got ousted as CEO because of mismanagement. Go figure.

          Half his ventures since have been abject and utter failures, which would’ve ruined anyone else financially, but because he’s got his rich emerald mine owner daddy, he always had a nice little trust fund to fall back on.

          And his views also go back to his father, who was a fervent supporter of the Apartheid state, and is essentially a white supremacist (also an elitist piece of shit). Don’t even get me started about mummy dearest, to whom muskie had to run just so he didn’t have to fight Zuckerberg…

          At SpaceX there literally used to be a “Musk management department”, solely tasked with giving the imbecile random tasks that don’t affect mission critical stuff, and making sure he’s not saying absolutely moronic BS in interviews.

          He’s basically stuck on the mental and emotional level of a 13yo teen who just hit puberty, combined with that Cybertruck shaped body, more gender affirming care than your average post-op trans person, and a botched micropenis he can’t even use. Him going full on alt-right wasn’t a question of if, but when.

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            At SpaceX there literally used to be a “Musk management department”, solely tasked with giving the imbecile random tasks that don’t affect mission critical stuff, and making sure he’s not saying absolutely moronic BS in interviews.

            Kinda still is that way. Just that through graft he scammed NASA into giving that “Musk management department” billions of dollars to build 11 massive rockets which have all failed. But they do a lot of spin to claim half of them were successful.

            The SpaceX that operates from Cape Canaveral still continues to do successful launches though. Now that Musk has burned through all of the money he scammed from NASA we’ll have to see if he starts pulling money from the wing of SpaceX that can actually launch things into space his stupid “Starship” project.

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      I’m happy to use it to memorialize someone who is long dead (like, at least a century; long enough that we can be pretty sure what kind of person they were in life), or to mark a notable feature or plant or animal in the region. Even an institution (College Park, Museum Way, High School Rd). Not everything has to be purely functional. And if the local government has to pay for the signs to be printed anyway…

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        Do you realize how many public schools, military bases, and other crap had to be renamed a few years ago because they were named after Confederates? All that signage and letterhead doesn’t just pay for itself.

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          We knew about them while they were still walking the earth. That was a willful choice, and the change represented a change in values.

          Yes, signage costs money. But it also has to be replaced from time to time anyway. I don’t think there are any schools changing their name annually; they probably print new signs up memorializing tournament wins often enough that they can just get it added to an existing print run.

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          Ah yes, Stalin elementary school, right down the street from Pol Pot high school, next door to Idi Amin College.

          Maybe they shouldn’t have named places after enemies of state in the first place.

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            “I’m happy to use it to memorialize someone who is long dead (like, at least a century; long enough that we can be pretty sure what kind of person they were in life)”

            Demonstrates why this is still a bad idea with example. Proceeds to get downvoted. 🤷‍♂️

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      Why even give them names that arbitrary/ we should just use Longitude/latitude or similar for everything.

      “Which high school did you go to?”

      “Oh, good ol’ 40.6146° N –74.4112° W”