Climate change is not directly about life or death, life will continue, both humans and animals. But SO much will go to shit, THAT is the problem. It can indirectly cause (massive) death for example when there will be conflicts due to mass migration. But the main group of people that cause climate change simply turn up their AC, they could not care less about the direct consequences around them.
While I agree I hate the example of 'turning up AC because it implies it’s us as end consumers as opposed to corps doing stupid shit. Like the AI slop war and container ships that create more emissions in 1 second than a normal human can create their entire life.
Container ships are by far the most efficient way to transport things we have. What is you problem with them? You can not transport things from A to B with less CO2 emissions per distance.
Please do the math for the 1 second = more emissions than a human in his entire life,
They are the most efficient when moving shit accross the globe. But the shear volume of ships moving things accross the globe is problematic. It would be more efficent to produce goods locally. And only use ships to move raw goods that cant be produced locally. Corporations dont because labor in poorer countries can be easier to exploit…
Sure it is a lot, but not even nearly the scale to what was suggested in that comment. Heating, for example, causes an order of magnitude more emissions.
It’s not that they aren’t efficient it’s the idea of guilt and responsibility being laid on the end consumer as opposed to corps who have the capital to invest in research to develop cleaner and more efficient technologies as opposed to runaway greed, CEO bonuses, stock kickbacks, etc. This is again not saying end consumers are not responsible at all, it’s more stating that corps are in a much better position to do much more, whereas end consumers can only do so much.
It is definitely directly about life or death for the majority of living organisms on Earth. That some other organisms will survive is a different matter, it still means suffering and death for trillions of living organisms.
Climate change is not directly about life or death, life will continue, both humans and animals. But SO much will go to shit, THAT is the problem. It can indirectly cause (massive) death for example when there will be conflicts due to mass migration. But the main group of people that cause climate change simply turn up their AC, they could not care less about the direct consequences around them.
the number of times I’ve heard “you won’t be here so why do you care?” or even “you don’t have kids so why do you care?” is very telling
these people literally cannot give a fuck about something that does not directly and obviously affect them.
I want the world to not suck when I’m 80. I want the world to not suck for the grandchildren of my friends and family and neighbours.
While I agree I hate the example of 'turning up AC because it implies it’s us as end consumers as opposed to corps doing stupid shit. Like the AI slop war and container ships that create more emissions in 1 second than a normal human can create their entire life.
Yeah but it is up to all of us. The moneymakers at the top or more responsible for the shit we’re in, but we are all responsible
Container ships are by far the most efficient way to transport things we have. What is you problem with them? You can not transport things from A to B with less CO2 emissions per distance. Please do the math for the 1 second = more emissions than a human in his entire life,
They are the most efficient when moving shit accross the globe. But the shear volume of ships moving things accross the globe is problematic. It would be more efficent to produce goods locally. And only use ships to move raw goods that cant be produced locally. Corporations dont because labor in poorer countries can be easier to exploit…
Sure it is a lot, but not even nearly the scale to what was suggested in that comment. Heating, for example, causes an order of magnitude more emissions.
It’s not that they aren’t efficient it’s the idea of guilt and responsibility being laid on the end consumer as opposed to corps who have the capital to invest in research to develop cleaner and more efficient technologies as opposed to runaway greed, CEO bonuses, stock kickbacks, etc. This is again not saying end consumers are not responsible at all, it’s more stating that corps are in a much better position to do much more, whereas end consumers can only do so much.
That does not mean you can make up stuff.
It is definitely directly about life or death for the majority of living organisms on Earth. That some other organisms will survive is a different matter, it still means suffering and death for trillions of living organisms.