Tell me you’re a dumbass without telling me you’re a dumbass

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    17 hours ago

    Fun fact the medieval Norse colony of Greenland predates the migration of the Inuit to the region. This has no bearing on anything because all of those people died, left, or assimilated with the Inuit.

    But regardless the Danes have probably the third strongest claim to the land. The US has fuck all claim to the territory and I hope to see my beloved Republic freed from these profligates in DC.

    Americana Delenda Est

    California Libertatem Invicta

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    1 day ago

    “The fact that they landed a boat there 500 years ago doesn’t mean they own the land”

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    20 hours ago

    This is missing the rest of it where he says “we were probably there too” (paraphrasing, I don’t remember what was actually said) implying that either the US or white people were there 500 years ago. It is really ridiculous.

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      “And by the way, I’m a fan of Denmark, too, I have to tell you. … But, you know, the fact that they had a boat land there 500 years ago doesn’t mean that they own the land. I’m sure we had lots of boats go there also,” he said.

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    He is simply and clearly steering towards WW3.

    He needs oil to power the army, Venezuela provides him with the resources. He has just increased the military budget by 50% to 1.5 trillion dollars. You don’t need 1.5 trillion dollars for defence. He renamed the department of defense to department of War. It’s always right in front of your nose with this guy, but everyone refuses to believe someone can be such a retard.

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      22 hours ago

      This is not a “Trump problem”.

      He’s the scapegoat, he’s the public stumbling goofy sun-downing mook.

      If Trump dies tomorrow, the machine will keep running.

      It’s always been the Department of War, regardless of the name.

    • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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      19 hours ago

      The Venezuelan oil is sour garbage that we don’t have the industrial resources to process in a meaningful way. There might be shit tons of it, but as it stands we can’t do very much with it.

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        Well he’s strategically planning for a war. It’s only slightly mired by the fact that he’s a brainless moron.

        He probably thinks you can just pump oil out of the ground and directly into a vehicles fuel tank. Look at that aircraft that Saudi Arabia is giving him, he’s so goddamn pleased with it even though it’s a piece of junk because he thinks that the thing is the goal, in and of itself. He has no idea that processes need to happened to make that end goal.

        I’d love to watch him play any kind of game that involves strategy and planning because I’m reasonably confident he’d suck at it.

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        23 hours ago

        He did not un-rename it, he got a DBA. It’s still officially the Department of Defense until Congress changes the name by resolution.

  • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    this is entirely consistent with their worldview that owning something by force makes it right

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    Holy fucking shit.

    This timeline just keeps getting dumber.

    This is the fucking savior of half of the voting population of the United States.

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      23 hours ago

      You’ve really gotta get your numbers right. Due to the structure of American democracy, the President is not the one who gets more than half the votes, nor the one who even gets the most popular votes necessarily. If you think 1 out of 2 American adults is a Trump supporter, you’re walking around thinking you have a fraction of the allies you do, which is a win for the regime.

      • qqq@lemmy.world
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        20 hours ago

        Trump won the popular vote by more than 2 million votes. Their numbers are right.

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        21 hours ago

        They’ve pretty much got their numbers right.

        Non voting is voting, in this regard.

        If there’s this many allies, where are they when voting time comes? Twice, he was elected.

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        23 hours ago

        “the voting population”

        1 out of 2 American adults who give enough of a fuck to vote are Trump supporters.

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      I honestly can’t tell if satire is dead or satire is now so easy nobody can make a living from it.

      Only last week I made a joke about Musk locking CSAM generation behind Grok Premium, and yesterday he did exactly that…

  • DandomRude@lemmy.world
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    Who can still take this ridiculous saber rattling by the orange rapist seriously when it is completely obvious that he is only trying to distract attention from his crimes? It’s really getting old.

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      Who can still take this ridiculous saber rattling by the orange rapist seriously when it is completely obvious that he is only trying to distract attention from his crimes?

      He literally just kidnapped the head of state of another country using military force.

      “An attempt to distract from his crimes” and “A serious threat to international peace” are not mutually exclusive.

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        1 day ago

        He literally just kidnapped the head of state of another country using military force.

        Well yes (although I’d argue how much of that was him vs Rubio), but doing so was preceded by a large naval buildup that we don’t see with Greenland. Not to mention that those naval assets are still there extorting Venezuela and another naval deployment of that size would leave INDOPACOM under resourced for maintaining the Island Chain containment on China.

        Basically, it’s not actually a serious threat at this point.

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          Nuuk has a population of 20000, and more than 1/3 of all people in Greenland live there. How much of a naval buildup do you need to take a town of this size?

          I’m not sure he even has to bother about taking Nuuk. If he just declared Greenland being a US-territory and started to build a mine somewhere - would Greenland, Denmark or the rest of NATO have the capability to deny this?

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          Well yes (although I’d argue how much of that was him vs Rubio), but doing so was preceded by a large naval buildup that we don’t see with Greenland.

          1. Yet.

          2. Greenland is much less defended than Venezuela.

          Not to mention that those naval assets are still there extorting Venezuela and another naval deployment of that size would leave INDOPACOM under resourced for maintaining the Island Chain containment on China.

          What makes you think the shitwit supreme cares about long-term US strategic interests like containment of China?

          • freagle@lemmy.ml
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            Because the MIC would remove him if he threatened their long term interests. It’s not hard.

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        An attack on Denmark would most likely mean the end of NATO and have a massive impact on the already damaged relationship with Europe. The EU would be forced to respond in one way or another. Even a megalomaniac like this bastard can’t be stupid enough to accept that.

        This is either a distraction or an attempt to put pressure on Denmark in order to gain leverage in negotiations.

        Of course, it is still absolutely true that the US under this absurd Nazi regime poses a considerable threat to world peace. The regime devalues international law with its ruthless acts, leaving only the law of the strongest to apply, which is of course an enormous step backwards for civilization - even though the UN, also largely due to the US, has never really taken it seriously.

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          Even a megalomaniac like this bastard can’t be stupid enough to accept that.

          Never underestimate human stupidity - or Trump’s stupidity, for that matter.

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            Yes, that’s true, but on the other hand, this criminal is also more than well known for bluffing with bullshit statements. And: This whole story is so completely absurd and would have such negative consequences that, in my opinion, it can only be another bluff. It could be fatal for the US because it would isolate the country even more. Not that the orange rapist would care about the fate of US citizens, but an attack on the EU would have economic consequences in the billions, and that can’t be good for the real rulers in the US, which is why they will forbid their puppet from making such a self-destructive move.

            It may well be that they have lost control, as the German economic elite did with Hitler at the time, but I consider that unlikely, because there is so much dirt on this pedo that the elite can easily bring him down as soon as he falls out of favor.

            I think we must never forget what an absolute clown the US president is: he was on the verge of bankruptcy before he became president. So he is not part of the ruling elite, but dependent on it - and if he steps out of line too much, even his MAGA cult will be of no use against the wrath of the one percent.

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              I have to ask; were you one of those who thought the institutions would uphold and Trump would be prosecuted during Biden’s term?

              I’m getting ‘pragmatist who is confidently incorrect’ vibes.

              You’re wrong on two points here: this is no distraction and the United States isn’t bluffing.

              • DandomRude@lemmy.world
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                No, I am definitely not one of those who believe that anyone who belongs to the elite or their minions in the US could be prosecuted for any offense - quite the contrary: I consider this completely out of the question, since the US is not a constitutional state but a plutocracy on the verge to dictatorship.

                I am not a US citizen, but from Europe.

                I still think that the US is bluffing, and I think that it may be the hubris of a nation whose citizens still believe that they are the only power in the world that makes this bluff possible. In fact, in my opinion, the US will soon be replaced by China as a superpower, if that is not already the case. However, this is not in terms of military power, but in terms of economic significance - and here, apart from the IT sector and the arms industry, the US no longer has much to offer. Europe is still important for both industries though, which is why I believe this is a bluff. The reason: due to the behavior of the US, the EU is already in the process of becoming more independent, which is a direct consequence of the irresponsible foreign policy of the first year of the current US regime. Attacking EU countries now would accelerate this process many times over, which the US cannot afford.

                In short: I am a realist, and I’m pretty certain that the reality is that the US is already isolated due to its current foreign policy and is also heavily indebted. For this reason, I consider it impossible that the current administration would risk a complete break with the EU (and NATO), as this would not only hit Europe hard, but also the US. The winner would be China, the country that will overtake the US in the foreseeable future anyway.

                In short, I consider the US regime’s policy not only irresponsible from a European perspective, but also absolutely disastrous from the US perspective. It is a policy of excessive self-overestimation that completely ignores reality.

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                  No, I am not one of those…

                  Shakes head Righto. I think I got what you meant by that. ‘I am not naive’ probably would have been good enough given that…

                  I am not a US citizen

                  So how can you not recognise, after seeing what you have, that this is no bluff? Your claim that the US elite have Trump by the balls is incorrect by inspection. It’s the other way round.

                  You need to understand rationale has been replaced with ruthlessness and fascism. China might replace the US, yeah, but not yet and not quickly. You’re not correct about its economic influence either; you’ve completely disregarded the rest of the economic world outside the US and Europe.

                  Sure, Europe is diversifying, as it should be and should have ages ago but none of that explains or underwrites the US bluffing, nor does it prevent it from happening.

                  Trump has reasons he believes are good enough to take Greenland and he will attempt. This is no bluff. There are strategic reasons he wants this territory in control of the US. Furthermore, his tech bros are pushing for it as well.

                  Realist ay? You better shake yourself into reality sunshine, because unless there’s some swift, serious movement within the US to stop or displace Trump, Greenland will be part of the US before the years out. Absolutely it would be disastrous but the ignorance of reality is thinking it won’t happen. They said they would and they will.

            • PugJesus@piefed.social
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              It may well be that they have lost control, as the German economic elite did with Hitler at the time, but I consider that unlikely, because there is so much dirt on this pedo that the elite can easily bring him down as soon as he falls out of favor.

              What dirt could possibly bring Trump down? His bootlicking followers are conditioned to dismiss or justify everything, up to and including literal pedophilia.

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                He gets away with everything because he controls the media through his billionaire friends - both traditional media and social media (Truth Social, which he owns, has little reach). Likewise, it is not him who controls people like Clarence Thomas for example (that would be billionaire Harlon Crow). So I’d say he is only untouchable because he acts in the interests of the elite. If he were to turn against them, things would very quickly look very differently.

                I think it’s a foregone conclusion that the elite pushed him into the highest political office precisely because he is such a disgusting, perverted scumbag. That means there is more than enough dirt on him to bring him down. With Hitler, it was different.

                Of course, it is always possible that he will use ICE, which is obviously a secret police force, against the elite, but I think it is rather unlikely that he actually has enough power to do so.

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                  If he were to turn against them, things would very quickly look very differently.

                  How? People have spent over a decade of their lives, isolating themselves from former friends and family in their worship of the orange rapist. The sunk cost fallacy is here deep.

                  I appreciate that you’re trying to highlight the deeper fundamental problem that could lead to a repeat of this situation even when Trump is gone, but I think you’re really underselling just how much of a fucking cult Trump has cultivated, and how immensely idiotic, immoral, and hypocritical his followers are.

                  Remember that as late the 1950s, a slim majority of Germans still thought positively of Hitler.

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          It is obviously a distraction, he didn’t pipe up attacking Venezuela or Iran for that matter.

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      If you solve domestic political problems with foreign policy, then you have arrived in the middle of authoritarianism.

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        Yes, that’s clear, but not against the EU. That would cost the US dearly. There are various other countries he could abuse for this purpose. I assume that Venezuela served as preparation for an invasion of Cuba (Maduro was the most important oil supplier for Cuba). I simply cannot understand why anyone would believe that a military conflict with the EU is even remotely realistic. It would isolate the US and cost the already weak US economy billions. A war against any South American country would not, even though it would have the same bogus effect on the US population.

        Moreover, Trump would be fulfilling a “US-dream” that has been propagated for ages if he attacked and maybe defeated Cuba. Why do you think he would strike against the last vassal states he has left (in fact that is what the EU is - I can confirm unfortunately because I’m from the EU, specifically from Germany where we have a head of state that is in fact a US lobbyist)? That would be absolutely insane.

        An attack on Cuba in violation of international law would of course be equally reprehensible, but it would probably even been met with approval among US citizens, while it should be clear to any reasonably educated US citizen that a conflict with the EU would be completely contrary to the most basic US interests.

        I cannot for the life of me understand how it is possible that these empty threats are taken even halfway seriously.

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          An unprovoked war on most any country will likely spark sanctions and hurt the economy. Trump doesn’t give a shit about the economy. He cares about himself. That should be obvious to you as well. He’ll start a war just to try and keep in power. It’s why he’s already trying to claim he doesn’t need permission from the rest of the government to attack countries or take lands.

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            Any EU country is by no means equivalent to any other country in the world for the US. What you say only confirms my opinion as an EU citizen that nothing but hostility can be expected from the US. The hubris is truly unbearable, and it seems that it is not just the pedophile head of state. It is remarkable how much self-importance a dying superpower can muster in its final death throes. The US is at an end, and this is not just due to decades of mismanagement…

            I’m sorry for being so salty, but I no longer have any sympathy for US citizens trying to cover up for their criminal government with slogans from the 1980s. The world is different today, and there will be a rude awakening in the US when the intoxication of self-adulation wears off.

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      Sorry but this is not correct. He is not only trying to distract from the Epstein files. It will take years to not only build but actually prosecute a criminal case against him and he’s a billionaire. Please stop making it sound so simple when it’s so much more dangerous than that

      He wants to do big and dramatic things and truly live as the most powerful person on earth and you should take everything he says seriously until proven otherwise.

      His administration is filled with proactively violent enablers and ideologues who are not only responsible for wanting Greenland in the first place but will happily carry out his deranged orders if he thinks listening to them will make him a great historical figure

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        I am by no means referring solely to the Epstein Files. What I mean is that, with this inhuman individual at the helm, the US is now being run like a veritable mafia state, very similar to nations like Russia, for example - organized crime in the truest sense of the word. This is a change from the usual plutocracy in that it is now more unscrupulous than ever: corruption is more obvious than ever and the profits of the elites are higher than ever, which can be easily seen in the exorbitant increase in the wealth of the top one percent. Likewise, the actions against the country’s own population are obviously more illegal than ever. To distract from how hollow the US system actually is, foreign policy is being used to make a big splash, which also provides opportunities for further self-enrichment - such as the abduction of Maduro, which is completely contrary to international law and from which the president and his influential supporters are likely to benefit personally.

        The reasoning behind this seems quite simple to me, as it is a classic autocratic strategy: continuous distraction from events in one’s own country is needed. I mean, when you murder your own people as ruthlessly as this regime does, it doesn’t go down well - especially when it’s not just marginalized groups that have never had any significant influence in the US. However, in order to enable a state like Russia, which is currently pretty evident in the US I’d say, it is necessary to also eliminate resistance among intellectuals and other native American groups, i.e., among US citizens, which I thinks is likely to happen soon. This requires all the more distraction - and autocrats traditionally find this excuse in foreign policy.

        In short: I think it is likely that the elites in the US, who have ruled the country for decades, have now decided to drop the pretense and switch from a sham democracy to the Russian model.

        I consider Drump’s latest foreign policy initiatives to be preparation for this, although in my opinion the Greenland narrative is not a genuine intention, as it would be very costly for the elites, but merely a way of swearing that it does not matter who you take action against in foreign policy. It also serves to show US citizens how powerless they really are: I may be wrong, but I don’t think the majority of US citizens have any interest in starting a conflict with Europe, their long-standing ally. Nevertheless, they cannot and will not do anything about it, but are at the mercy of the regime, as evidenced by the fact that many US citizens take the chatter of their completely out-of-control head of state seriously.

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    Yeah the US should have sent a boat then. Frankly it’s poor planning on their part just assuming they can get away with not existing for 300 years.