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        The problem runs a lot deeper than who’s running, but if the DNC was the kind of party that would let someone like Walz run for president then yeah Trump wouldn’t be president.

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        Nah, their election fraud strategies flipped the top race from the Dem candidate to Trump, in all the swing states. That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of ballots with a straight Dem ticket, except Trump at the top. Ever talk to one of those voters? Ever see one on TV? Ever even HEARD of one? And yet there are MILLIONS of them? And they only live in those 7 swing states?

        It didn’t matter who was at the top of the Democratic side of the ballot, that name was going to get flipped to Trump.

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          There were a lot of people who voted for AOC and Trump. AOC went out and talked to some of them, I think she posted video of some of those conversations but she talked about it a bit on social media and iirc a big refrain was it was working class uneducated people who wanted change and something other than the status quo and felt that both Trump and AOC were both something other than the status quo. Well, they were right, in an awful way.

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            AOC is a charismatic style politician like Trump, and votes for politicians like that defy all logic. They will always have odd voting patterns, both for and against. I’m not talking about those types of candidates.

            I’m talking about a voter who goes into a voting booth and votes entirely Democratic, but sticks with Trump at the top. I don’t doubt that there are few, but they are as rare as white squirrels. Also, they seem to be totally located within the seven swing states.

            So, if there are millions of them,.as MAGA insists, let’s talk to a few. Put a panel together, and let’s hear from people who want Democrats operating our government, but thinks that the person to be the boss over them should be Trump. If there are millions of them, they shouldn’t be hard to find. Let’s start with ONE.

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            This podcast (arc) has an absolutely fascinating interview with a Latino Trump supporter who used to vote for Dems because he wanted them to give amnesty to undocumented immigrants but when that never happened he became disillusioned, and in the meantime businesses in his neighborhood were illegally dumping their trash and the Democratic city government just picked it up and never tried to ticket the owners owners, so this guy convinced himself that we needed a Republican government because he believed they were a tougher political party that would hold those businesses accountable.

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          You might be right, but when I lived in Minneapolis I thought Minnesota was pretty much 100% blue. I’d pretty much never met a local Republican. Now I live about 30 minutes out of the city, and in the 3 years I’ve been here, I’ve yet to meet another local non-Republican.

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        Funny story, in that week between Biden dropping out and Harris getting the nomination, in a Lemmy thread wondering who other than Harris could be a decent presidential nominee, I mentioned Walz. I got a lot of “who?” and people commenting that he really didn’t have the name recognition to carry the ticket with that short of a time frame.

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      I don’t think he’s actually done, but I think this move does make it harder for republican Political gamesmanship.

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        The whole persona the right wing media fabricated over the years against this guy is now worthless and it takes them time to get so many stupid people’s hate turned in another direction. It’s pretty funny actually.

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    The problem is that Republicans have always been able to use a compliant media, to bring down strong candidates and replace them with their choice.

    And as usual, Democrats are complicit. A Democrat will be forced to resign and leave public life over a parking ticket.

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    …met with Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) on Sunday to discuss the campaign, as Klobuchar considers her own run for the governorship, according to one of the people familiar with the meeting.

    This corporate goblin. “Not as bad as the other side!”

    The bar is in the ninth circle of hell.

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    I hate that the MAGAs will take this as a win, as they should.

    I like Walz, I wouldn’t mind him as president at all, but right now we need warriors who will stand up to MAGA, and if he doesn’t have it in him, then he needs to get out of the way, which is apparently what he’s doing. I can respect that. At least he’s not sticking around, and trying to talk the rest of us into backing down.

    At least some part of me hopes that perhaps this is a strategy, and he intends to fill out his term for governor, and then run for president. It would be like him to feel that it is irresponsible to claim to be governor, while he is spending 99% of his time campaigning for president.

    But I want to vote for a serious Democratic Warrior, and this event takes Walz off my list, at least for the time being.

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    Every time someone backs down against fascism shows them their threats and violence work. It reinforces their actions. It’s effective. And it guarantees they will do it again. The only way to win is to stand firm and fight for your democracy otherwise you’ll die a slave.

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      Unlikely, they would want him to stay for midterms, then in 28 if he won the presidency that would just replace him as govenor then.

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        That would have been a dick movethough right? Not the ideal solution for Minnesota

        Maybe he is just a decent guy and wants the next government to be able to do their job instead of being involved in a presidential campaign?

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    I like Tim Walz, but unfortunately, he fucked up. Should have had more oversight in his system. I’m for social welfare programs, but they can get abused, which is why it’s critical that they’re well-funded enough to be efficient and have good oversight to make sure they’re not open to too much fraud.

    To be honest, I don’t think Democrats on the whole have done social welfare well. Admittedly, that’s often because Republicans get in the way of giving the systems adequate funding, but even in most Blue states, they’re inadequately funded.

    Anyway, it’s too bad he’s going out this way. He was otherwise a great governor.