• WoodScientist@lemmy.worldEnglish
      29·
      4 days ago

      Then you have cases like the one in Tennessee, where a trans woman did this to protest not being given an accurate drivers license. The police responded by arresting her for exposing female breasts. And then they threw her in a men’s prison.

      There is a long precedent in the law of treating trans people as male or female, whichever will hurt them most in the moment. That’s the standard for most conservatives. “We’ll treat you right now as whatever sex would hurt you the most, and we won’t care about being consistent about it.”

    • Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      17·
      5 days ago

      Ironically, one of the side effects of using testosterone - commonly used for men with low testosterone - is breast tissue growth.

      Surgery to remove it would be a double whammy of (CIS) gender affirming care.

      • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        6·
        4 days ago

        Excess testosterone will be converted into estrogen by the body, for anyone else confused as to why we all didn’t have boobs.

        Testosterone itself (in the body) suppresses boob growth.

        • Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          2·
          4 days ago

          Ooh. That makes sense. I read that on a side effects list and thought it was interesting, but didn’t realize that was the mechanism of action.

          I would suppose if someone grows breast tissue from using testosterone, then they should use less. (Which kind of means my original comment is a bit circular, or rather, the surgery would perhaps be unnecessary if the correct amounts/dosage were used.)

          • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            2·
            4 days ago

            Aye, but if the dose of T is not too high (a person can need a certain level to feel healthy), their doctor can prescribe a Aromatase inhibitor instead (the enzyme which converts T -> E)

            However, if they leave it too long (1yr+) and the tissue becomes fibrotic; then surgery is the only way to remove it. So your hypothetical has no doubt happened.

        • Anivia@feddit.orgEnglish
          1·
          4 days ago

          Excess testosterone will be converted into estrogen by the body

          FTFY

          Aromatization of testosterone happens in everyone, regardless if they have “excess” testosterone or not

  • homes@piefed.worldEnglish
    72·
    5 days ago

    New York City solve this silly problem by simply making it legal for both men and women to be a topless in public. Although few women decide to do that, at least they can’t get arrested for it anymore.

    • dermanus@lemmy.caEnglish
      37·
      5 days ago

      Exactly. We’ve had this in Canada for ages. In my 40 years I’ve seen exactly one woman exercise that right, but they still ought to have it.

      • Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zipEnglish
        311·
        5 days ago

        Seattle has legal nudity and my trans self spent the last few years regularly wandering around topless and even totally nude. I don’t miss the US but there are things I miss about Seattle

        • BanMe@lemmy.worldEnglish
          8·
          4 days ago

          Seattle was a neat place to live, if only I could have afforded it longer. You go broke unless you work for a tech company at this point. The casual nudity was fun.

  • Asidonhopo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    353·
    5 days ago

    This has been posted before and once again no links to the uncensored version… sigh

  • wolfrasin@lemmy.todayEnglish
    8·
    4 days ago

    Jealous in American that they can fund their tits & their tattoos while taking time off work #transrights

    • Zink@programming.devEnglish
      2·
      4 days ago

      Unfortunately I think the people who most need to understand why you’d be jealous, as well as why these gals would hold up “don’t destroy us plz” signs while being all attention grabbing, will not be answering the phone.

      I was raised in 80s and 90s maga world before it had a brand. And there are two things that I consistently see them do, which makes a lot of sense vis-a-vis the recent saying about conservatism having the in group the law protects and the out group it binds. It is these two things that blind them to the various messages of human rights. (there’s a depressing sentence to honestly write about real people I know)

      First they generalize, caricaturize, and exclude. They lump in these non-cis protesters right along with the non-christians, non-straights, non-whites, and various other “why can’t you just be a normal person” rest of humanities.

      The racism, bigotry, and LGBT+phobias are a convenient way to narrow down one’s perceived size of the “in group” candidate pool, which obviously still includes them. They are not in the leopards’ food chain. Obviously.

      The second thing they do is conform. It goes hand in hand with the bigotry of course, but it also has to do with the fucked up psychology that goes into keeping up appearances and covering up the family’s skeletons so that you always look like one of the in-group. Like if your princess needed an abortion, not only was HER’s obviously the rare moral one, but nobody needs to know about it because she has her whole future ahead of her!

      That’s just tribalism, sure. And conservatives are bad about it in general, yes. But they can be REALLY bad about it when it comes to money, because they hate poor people. Even if they are poor. Because they need somebody to look down on. But even “good folks” can be rebranded as “poor white trash” if they don’t maintain the perceived standards of the in-group.

      Wilhoit’s law:

      Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

      After writing this post I’m thinking Wilhoit’s law might just exactly right, so there’s the text.