“It’s not about drugs. If it was, Trump wouldn’t have pardoned one of the largest narco traffickers in the world last month. It’s about oil and regime change. And they need a trial now to pretend that it isn’t. Especially to distract from Epstein + skyrocketing healthcare costs,” she claimed in a social media publication.

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    Yes Trump literally said in his speech that’s what it’s about, they’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

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      Shit, pretty sure he’s on tape telling Netentyahu, that starting a war to cancel elections is a great idea that he wants to do.

      He wants a regime change eventually, and so does the money behind him.

      But what trump wants more, is anything that will cancel midterms and last long enough to cancel the next presidential too.

      That’s why he’s doing this, holding onto political power is the golden goose. Not even trump is dumb enough to kill and eat the goose. As we get closer to elections, we’ll see him pass on money if it means holding onto power longer. But if midterms happen and he loses the House, that’s a lot of lost power, which means less money from bribes/grifts.

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        Shit, pretty sure he’s on tape telling Netentyahu, that starting a war to cancel elections is a great idea that he wants to do.

        But what trump wants more, is anything that will cancel midterms and last long enough to cancel the next presidential too.

        The craziest and saddiest part of this theory most people were alive when the US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Those elections were never cancelled.

        If the US does proceed with a full on invastion of Venezuela. Trumpie tells everyone that the elections has to be cancelled. There is a going to be sizeable part of the population that is going “Yeah, cancelling the elections during a war makes sense”. Even though most of them were alive during the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions.

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          Eh.

          Cancelling elections would be the precipitator to get a 1/6 type of thing, except this time against trump. Not to mention the few high ranking military who didn’t resign, have already shown their not cowards.

          trump assumes everyone against him left, but the only people who left were cowards who didn’t deserve to put a uniform on

          Anyone that’s not with trump and stayed, will likely see cancelled elections as the last opportunity to act. It won’t be fun, but that’s less a line in sand, and more the foundation this country was built on.

          I really don’t see even his biggest supporters defending cancelled elections. Especially with how much worse things are gonna be by even midterms

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            The mythical good soldier, never seen before but will appear at exactly the right moment.

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              I mean historically revolutions commonly involve military defectors/coups. No garuntee that will happen though

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                No guarantee it won’t involve another person stepping up against trump, seizing power and then holding onto it. Usually that’s how that happens

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            He’s not going to cancel elections. He doesn’t need to do it. He can delay results claiming fraud or not even that, just ignore the Congress.

            And maybe he won’t even need to do that. Just purge voters, strict voting laws enforcement, gerrymandering, just plain voter fraud.

            And maybe he won’t even need to do that, because republicans may still keep both houses without any fraudulent activity. Yes. There is a good chance that happens. You maybe read of a few disappointed voters, but most people are still 100% maga.

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              You maybe read of a few disappointed voters, but most people are still 100% maga.

              Weird to remind people of this, but real life still exists bro…

              And wherever you’re reading about what they think, I bet a billionaire owns it.

              Why do you only find out about them thru billionaires?

              You do realize the billionaires don’t give a fuck about either group, and have been putting us against each other for generations and doing everything possible to segregate us?

              Like, these all feel like very basic questions, and I’m probably coming off condescendingly, but there’s some very important things we need to clear up here, and it seems like we need to start at a basic level.

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              Magats are composed of 2 groups of people. Morons and scumbags. That’s it. Nothing else. And they’re are all over social media praising their orange shitler.

              They won’t catch on till they end up like the VnJ in Nazi Germany in the 30s.

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          And the other half will stand with a placard on the street thinking that will solve it.

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        There’s no provision in US law for suspension of elections. No matter what we hold elections. Now they’ll certainly be ratfucked to hell and back but any suspension of elections will be totally illegal.

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          Problem is, it wouldn’t be the first thing that it totally and obviously illegal, that still gets done with 0 conequenses for the fascist.

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            I know, but they’d literally have to cite a foreign country’s laws as the justification like scrotus did pulling from english common law to nix Dobbs.

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            I don’t think even MAGA lets him get away with that. This is America and we have elections! We fuckin don’t vote in them but we have em, god dammit

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              They’ll let him get away with it, because they’re all going to lose their seats. The US has been taken over by a dictator. Our only hope is invasion.

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      Well if you’re a fascist who doesn’t care about blending of the state with capital then it’s a pretty strong argument.

      They did sign contracts, let American companies build a bunch of infrastructure, then seized it at gunpoint.

      Iran, Iraq, etc done similar things, but Venezuela is pretty unique in that it lost the international legal cases and still refused to pay retribution.

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      Even trump, for once, said the truth out loud

      We’re going to have our very large United States oil companies (…) go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure, the oil infrastructure (…) Let’s start making money

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      At least they’ve stopped writing “mic drop” for this shit. Politician says thing about other politician; no action taken

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      No, you see, SLAM is actually an acronym.

      Speaks Loudly About Matters.

      Suddenly Lambasts Apparent Misconduct.

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      A special military operation to overthrow a government that takes less than 3 days, only a few hours to be precise… Must be hard to see others achieve that when you are not even close to that at day nr. 1,409.

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        So, I in no way support what the USA has just done (essentially forced vassilisation of another nation to appease oil magnates), but god damn that comment was funny.

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        This reminds me of Bush standing on an aircraft carrier with a “Mission Accomplished” banner behind him. Trump says he’s gonna run Venezuela and seize their oil. The violence is only just beginning.

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        We have yet to see if it overtrhows the Venezuelan government, so far it appears to be fairly stable without Maduro.

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      At no point in Russia’s modern history have they had any problem whatsoever with being hypocrites.

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          If I was a conspiracy theorist I might think that Putin was in on this, ie: Venezuela’s VP in Russia at the exact same time Trump attacks – and her brother, the head of the national assembly, is supposedly in Caracas but hasn’t been seen since the attack.

          I’d be very surprised if either one makes it out of this alive.

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            I would expect the VP to be set up as a puppet leader, with her brother as a hostage to force her cooperation.

            Edit: Looks like she might not be cooperating.

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              She isn’t. Sad to say but she may find herself falling out a window or meeting a “Ukrainian” car bomb soon.

              We are so fucked as a world right now.

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        Nah, Trump is just really gullible and in charge of a large amount of geopolitical and economic power so it makes sense for Putin to act like his friend.

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      venezuela is a putin ally, he did the same for iran too, remember when iran was bombed israel, putin immediately used his troll farms to attack trump.

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    It’s not just about oil, its about sour crude oil.

    USA is an oil exporter. Why does it need more oil? The answer is, it doesn’t. But US oil companies need sour crude oil for their refineries, built during the 70’s and 80’s to refine exactly the kind of oil produced in Venezuela. Not designed to refine the shale oil produced in the fracking boom.

    It’s all about the oil companies margins, and it will be paid for in American and Venezuelan blood. Because why pay to refit your refineries when human lives and presidencies are so cheap?

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      She’s an intelligent, well thought out person but no one deserves that kind of fanaticism.

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    Do people criticizing AOC have any idea how limited a house members direct power is. The most impactful thing she can do from her seat on a regular basis is normalize the contempt. She’s not even a senator ffs. I really hope we’re able to rally against the hateful bigots. This country is a mess and full of dumbass tools blissfully ignorant to reality in every corner.

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      Yeah like, I’ll friggin take it, all the power to that fierce woman! Maybe she can’t directly fix everything, but you’re right, people discount the fact that her outspoken truth to power can embolden dissent.

      Eventually that fury has the power to change minds, and some of those minds can directly do something about this. (Especially if their constituents pressure them enough and don’t give them any wiggle room.)

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      I think most of us realize that she is a token FDR New Deal Democrat, with no actual power. She’s like a release valve for citizens to cheer for. SHE GETS IT, etc.

      There are always a few, they provide cover for big money leadership like Schumer (who is NOT a new deal democrat, he’s like a 90s Republican)

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    this would have been quite the bold claim if the used sponge of a president that you have didn’t literally say the same thing to reporters himself.

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    Anyone else getting sick of the word “slams” in headlines? She posted online on social media. Yes she’s right but this “slams” thing is really getting old.

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    Thank god they put “slams” in the headline, otherwise lemmy’s anti-progressive contributors might not have an easy excuse to ignore AOC.

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      “I want to make it very clear that I am slamming this operation. Make sure to put that in the headline!”

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      You hear that everybody? She slammed it. It’s been slammed. It’s ok, no need to panic, everybody knows everything’s fine as long as it gets slammed. No need for any further action here; it’s been slammed.

      Slam.

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    yoo its only a few days after New Year wtf man.

    Also this gives me 2019 vibes: January 2019 right after New Year Trump ordered missile strike that hit a top Iranian general’s vehicle.

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    You Should Know: The “Cartel de las Soles” isn’t actually a real cartel.

    See, the Venezuelan military uses a sun insignia for generals, where the US military uses a star. A journalist invented the term in 1993 to talk about corruption in the Venezuelan military. Get it? All the members of this “cartel” wear suns. But, it’s not a real cartel. Not everybody who wears a sun (i.e. is a general) is necessarily involved in crimes, and those that are aren’t necessarily working together.