I don’t care about Maduro, as far as I’m concerned, they can shoot him if they want. What matters to me is walking through the streets of my city and seeing the faces of fear on my neighbors. The military patrolling to prevent looting due to panic. It’s a collective hangover, a horrible one.

It’s 2016 all over again. It’s seeing despair entering the circulatory system of all Venezuelans, only now it’s more sudden, and we are painfully aware of it.

This is far from improving, and we know it.

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    Resigning instead of refusing an illegal order is a betrayal of their oath to the constitution, and a betrayal of the American people

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      This. It’s not upholding the constitution, it’s standing back and watching it get fucked, while selling books or speaking engagements.

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        I don’t disagree, but then they get dishonorably discharged, lose their pension and benefits, a loyalist is put in their place and the end result is the same except that they’re worse off personally. I can absolutely see that the better option for them is to resign and make a statement rather than going hard-core and fight it. Unless they plan on a full-on military coup.

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            Bit harsh IMHO.

            It’s being human. Not everyone is prepared to throw away the future they planned for and have been working towards their whole life on principle, especially if the end result of that action is bugger all.

            I might not agree, but I get it.

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              Well there’s plenty of us who never got a single second of the “future we planned for”. Sure its a bummer to have something you thought was nice and have it turn into something awful, but that doesn’t mean you should turn a blind eye towards your morals. Doubly so if you happen to be in the military.

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                So then you might understand that if you’re in the lucky group who is on track to get it, it might be hard to give up?

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                  No I’m saying that is a selfish and greedy viewpoint. It only holds up if you only think about yourself and your own family. If you are in the military, you should be concerned about more than those in your immediate circle. Joining the military for selfish reasons is absurd already.

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                    I’m sure there are as many reasons as there are people for joining the military. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying that I understand their rationale. If I had to choose between ideological purity and comfort for my family I’m not 100% sure what I’d choose. I’m human after all, and looking after your loved ones absolutely comes first.

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              These high level guys have the wealth to sue for their pensions. Courts will restore them if the orders they refused were illegal.

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                Courts will restore them if the orders they refused were illegal.

                Will they though? Pre-Trump, probably. Today? I wouldn’t bet my future and retirement on it.