Also keeps the fecal aerosol to a minimum.
Lid down is a win for everyone.
Flushing with the lid up is gross. I do not want to have poo particles flying around and landing on my toothbrush. But maybe that is just me… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is exactly where I sit on this debate. Flush with the lid down and it’s a non-issue!
The obvious solution is to move to a country where toilets aren’t put in the bathroom.
sorry to ruin your life but mythbusters tested this and no matter how much protection your toothbrush has there will still be poo particles on it
Fair enough. But if any poo particles are getting on my toothbrush when the lid is down, more will be getting on when the lid is open. Besides, I also keep the toothbrush in a cabinet so double protection.
That was part of the test, there was essentially no difference. The particles that can become airborne are small Enough they floating around everywhere regardless of how they get out. The real problem is how huge the gap is between the seat and rim. Needs a rubber skirt or something
“This debate would be solved if everyone would just agree to one choice.”
No. The seat up vs down being open for debate at all implies that the lid stays up all the time. That’s crazy, the lid is literally made for covering the toilet.
This is not a gender thing.
You’re right. It’s a “people who listen” vs “people who don’t listen” thing.
It just so happens that on average, women are much better at listening than men.
And they won’t shut up about it⸮
It damn well shouldn’t be. But there are dudes who won’t even wipe they own ass cause they’re afraid to catch the gay.
Edit: I really didn’t expect non ass wipers to be on lemmy. But I’m glad I upset at least 4 of you idiots.
Ive always put the lid down along with the seat. I believe its more sanitary and has the added benefit of women not falling fully in the bowl like when the seats up. Ive done this for about 15 years.
A few years after I started doing this, I was spending the night at my friend’s house. I had to get up early to go to work, so I was first up. My friends mother got up next apparently. I was bombarded with texts and such, her mom was angry because she got up and went to the bathroom and just went for it after she sat down. Queue giant liquid waste mess to clean and an angry start to her day.
All these years later, I still think its one of the funniest things I’ve ever been part of in real life.
I was gonna say you’d be surprised how many waste particles fly around the room with the seat up - but from the sound of it, even more went everywhere with it down!
Cue
Everybody saying keep the lid down for hygiene reason are missing the most important reason to keep the lid closed. Anything dropped or falling will inexorably end into the toilet if the lid is up.
It drives me crazy that I, a man, always shut it, but my wife won’t. Our cat was drinking from it a couple days ago and that still isn’t enough to make her change.
Have you tried telling her with sincerity and openness and not anger or self righteousness that this is important to you?
Yes, I spoke to her like a nice normal person who loves their spouse. Why are you assuming I’m an asshole?
Have you tried speaking like a horrible violent person who hates their spouse?
It might really bring some change.
I hear it works for cops…
Why are you assuming I’m an asshole?
To be fair, this is the internet ;)
Toilets are gross. Put the lid down. There is some study I read that said flushing the toilet throws lots of bacteria into the room. Shut the lid before you flush.
Mythusters found fecal particles everywhere even when the lid was down. There’s no escape from gross, just finding an acceptable level.
Then all the bacteria are flung onto the lid, and when I sit down I might touch the lid with my back.
There’s plenty of bacteria in the air already, a million more aren’t going to hurt. Unless you have a norovirus, then you need to disinfect with bleach after you’re done.
You don’t think there are plenty of bacteria on your back already? Not to mention it would likely be on the back of your shirt. What’s in the air goes straight into your lungs.
Yes. Close your biological waste disposal units, ya crude yokels!
Unless you’re immunocompromised it doesn’t make a difference. “Unhealthy” bacteria is literally everywhere. You have an immune system for a reason.
Just out it back as you found it. Easy peesy.
Negligent child finds it down, leaves it up. Spouse find it up, follows your rule, leaves it up.
Obnoxious buzzer sound
Always keep the lid down to minimize poop spray!
You don’t want to microdose poop to boost your immune system? Lame.
Flushing with the lid up is 🤢
But then you dont get to watch it go down
How long do you wait before lifting the lid back up to check for streaks?
Until the flush is done
But how do you check if you need to brush the bowl? Do you just wait for the flush to end and then raise the lid again to check under?
Gonna be honest, I’m just peeing that off the next time I go.
The brush is for routine cleans or times of true digestive discord.
If I lived alone I might resort to this laziness. But I have only lived alone for 8 months in 52 years.
if your shits are thick enough, every flush is a brush flush.
Put toilet paper into the bowl before pooping and you never have a need to brush the bowl.
It could be solved by not talking about it anymore, because it’s a dumb debate anyway.
I’m a woman but I grew up with guys, so I never understood what the big deal was. It’s ingrained in me to check the seat before sitting, as well as to check the amount of toilet paper before going.
Guys have to lift the seat, I have to put it down, so what? I’m washing my hands when I’m done anyway (and I hope others are too), and I’d rather just have to put a seat down than have to wipe someone else’s piss off it (which I have to do in public restrooms, because some women are straight-up animals there.)
Guys have to lift the seat, I have to put it down, so what?
Seriously, if you’re arguing about the default state of the toilet seat, then you’re just looking to argue.
Right? It’s such a petty thing. Yeah, I get not wanting to touch the toilet, but I don’t understand why the burden should be 100% on either gender. Just pay attention to the seat before you use it (regardless of which direction it’s going), do your business, keep it clean, replace the toilet paper when it runs low/out, and we’ll all be fine.
Edit to add. My ex’s ex made a huge deal about the toilet seat. When I first moved in with him, there were stickers that said “PUT THE SEAT DOWN” on the bottom side of it. I thought it was humiliating. I bought some Goo Gone and removed that shit.
I’m not a woman, so I’m not experience with utilizing that anatomy, but it is baffling to me that piss would end up on the seat in a women’s bathroom.
It’s because a lot of women “hover.” They don’t want to touch the seat, but also don’t want to use seat covers or lay down toilet paper. Instead, they squat and hover over the seat, which leaves a gap for piss to spill onto. Then for some unknown reason, they don’t take some toilet paper and clean up the pee they leave.
It’s terrible and I can’t understand it.
Who doesn’t do this?
People who haven’t seen that video of a toilet flushing under just the right lighting, where you can see the water splattering everywhere. That’s who.
It’s the reason why I always hop in the shower and wash my ass with soap after a shit, cause not even a bidet will clean up that mess. Ever wonder why your ass cheeks feel wet after a multi-flusher? Cause they are.
Why would you flush before you stand up
Because I don’t want to stand up with shit still sticking to my cheeks. I flush immediately to minimize the smell.
i always shower and wash my ass with soap after a shit
either you need more fiber in your diet, youre lying, or youre showering multiple times a day which is… wild
How many times a day do you take a poop?
The lid always goes down when not in use at my house.
“It’s a shit receptacle, not a water feature” has been repeated to anyone who doesn’t know the rule.
I’ve had my neighbor get their sewer line worked on that somehow resulted in making my toilets explode with sewer gas and shit particles.
The lid stays down.
This was my position when my husband and I moved in together, but I could not convince him.
Then we got a kitten who loved to drink from the faucet. After the second time she fell into the open toilet on her way to the bathroom sink, he got on board with keeping the toilet closed.
19 years later, we no longer have that sweet baby, but it’s still a habit.
I don’t even piss standing up anymore, but I’m still a firm believer in the concept of “it really isn’t that hard to just look before you sit”.
I don’t even piss standing up anymore
the correct solution.
True power comes from not using the power.
I can stand and piss… but for many reasons I prefer to sit.
For me the algorithm is “if(wearing_glasses == True and is_brightly_lit == True): stand; else: sit”.
Your variables are already booleans, so you can just write:
if wearing_glasses and is_brightly_litAre they though? Maybe they are inputs that haven’t been sanitised but the language has two kinds of equals and is you use the double equals then it tries to coerce it for you. Lol that with would be silly!
yes but it makes it clearer to do
isWearingGlasses == true
Tbh, it’s just easier and less messy. I don’t gotta focus on aiming, and I don’t have to worry about getting griped at for forgetting to put the seat down. Standing is really only a better option if you’re in public and in a rush.
Certain toilets are on the small size for my… equipment. And I periodically find my dongle touching porcelain. This also results in some backspray which is annoying to clean up.
I’ve found it easier and less messy to piss standing. But I also got a fancy bidet for my wife’s Christmas present years ago. It automates the whole task of opening and closing, does a bit of self-cleaning, and saves us a few bucks on toilet paper month-to-month. So its less of an issue.
Sometimes I piss too hard or at the wrong angle or something while I’m having a big one while I’m also having a shit and it somehow escapes under the rim and I end up with piss all over the floor. The amount of piss from that Vs micro spray is incomparable.
This is the exact problem I have with sitting to take a piss and, while I find it more comfortable, I’d prefer not to have to wash myself in the sink after every piss to feel clean again. Standing just cuts out the chance of getting that icy spicy porcelain all up on my wing wang.
Yet another problem solved by being a grower
nsfw
Yeah, for men, standing up is just going to get piss everywhere. Men also need to wipe themselves afterwards, not just shake. Some men consider both of these practices to be overly-feminizing or whatever, but not having piss all over yourself and the bathroom is unequivocally a good thing.
I wear shorts for most of the year. Using a urinal while wearing shorts, you realise how much piss splashes everywhere. Really not hygienic.
This is exactly why I stopped bothering with toilets
Couldn’t agree more
I started doing this over 30 years ago, when I shared a restroom at work with a few women. I kept doing it.
Where I grew up and live, there are two types of toilets, those designed to be sat upon, and those designed to be stood in front of. Use them as they were designed to be used, and they work better.
I’ve only ever seen photos of squat toilets. I imagine that men stand in front of them and piss all over them?
It’s a lesson you learn once.
Apparently not, considering the bitchy comments I’ve gotten from women in my life lol.I learned it after the first time, but hey.
