The Untied States is literally becoming like nazi Germany and I don’t know if people understand that I’m not exaggerating. I legitimately can’t tell if people realize that America is now a fascist dictatorship, likely to soon go full on nazi Germany and make it explicitly illegal to be part of certain minority groups, at which point it may be too late for people to leave. I don’t know if people around me understand that that’s not an exaggeration.
People just keep on going to Disneyland as if it’s perfectly safe. It’s like watching people go to a store that’s literally on fire and nobody is even trying to put it out. It’s like people think if the fire department isn’t reacting then it isn’t happening
and my grandmother thinks it’s funny to tell me canada is going to be the 51st state. Yes, so hilarious the fire might soon consume our house too
Canada isn’t much better.
closer to becoming RUSSIA actually than nazi germany. texas is already almost there, florida isnt far behind.
Here is the rabid Russophobe with the same nazi ideology anxious to go to the eastern front again.
In case any of you are still deluded by the orange Russian asset BS:
The US has forever been an enemy of Russia and Trum has supported, paid and facilitated the war againsqt them without interruption for 2 terms.
We know which side the fascist are.
Those who support it, didn’t think that’s the case. They have been brainwashed to think this is all great stuff. I think a lot of them are psychopaths, having no empathy for anyone suffering. They simply don’t believe it until it happens to them and then they are outraged. It’s nuts.
I don’t think it’s that they’re all psychopaths, or lack empathy. I think what it really is is faith, in a sense. They’ve been told bad things happen for a reason, that actions have consequences, and thus they have faith that the bad things happen to bad people who deserve it, because the world is a just place.
But when things happen to them, or people close to them, then they know that it’s not justified. They don’t know about all those other folks, but they know their mom didn’t do any bad stuff, and they know they don’t deserve this outcome. So only when it happens to them do they go “this is bullshit” and then get angry that the system and/or universe gave them the wrong result.
People dont know what to do about it. Its as simple as that. They dont see any available action that they see any chance of being fruitful… plus they are too busy thinking about how theyre going to pay their next bills.
Yes but, if you live in Canada, it is very easy to NOT GO to the Untied States. One of my complaints is people in my country continuing to walk into the burning states as if they see nothing wrong or dangerous about it. It stresses me out.
People not coming to the US is already having an effect. Hotel occupancy is starting to drop off and prices are starting to drop.
I know it’s anecdotal, but my Canadian coworkers all canceled their trips to the US. They all switched to Europe or Mexico.
A bit over a year ago, we were making holiday plans including a trip to the US. When the orange menace got re-elected I convinced my wife that we should just do a longer Canadian leg for the trip. Best decision ever.
Good but I still know people going there like nothing is out of the ordinary. I won’t be satisfied until nobody is going there. And these people I know don’t support Trump. They know Trump is bad but they don’t seem to think anything is out of the ordinary
MAGA isn’t as competent as Nazi Germany though. That was a enonomically devestated country that voted in a dictator to fix things. Nazis were efficient; that was literally the point.
This is more like the fall of Rome or the Soviet Union: a country at the apex of power and efficacy, finally buckling under the weight of its decedance and indulgences, and drinking too much of its own koolaid.
My hope is that MAGA turns into a cold bucket of water for the country. But more realistically, this seems to be the start of a sad corpo state that’s going to fall behind the rest of the world.
Nazis were efficient; that was literally the point.
No, they weren’t particularly efficient. In many cases they were bumbling idiots that got really, really lucky - just like the current US administration.
East Germany or the Soviet Union collapse makes the better comparison. Similar mass delusions among the public that all the debt, wars and breakdown in society is normal or will get better on it’s own. Loss of the rule of law and truth more broadly. Like after the Soviet collapse, you have oligarchs coming in to take over parts of the system and privatize them. This effect creates the authoritarian system that lead to Putin and those around him. The U.S. has its Gorbachev. Even in Soviet society they had a concept called Vranyo, which translated to the fact that the population largely knew the Government was always lying and corrupt, and the Govt knew the population knew they were all lying and corrupt, and anyone who tried to Plato’s Cave it was always shut down across the board from both sides. The mass delusions lasted until the collapse. And even after for many.
Ugh, that is very compelling.
Add in a bit more cyberpunk, with how the country uses tech these days.
Also, the US is quite wealthy and developed compared to the old Soviet Union, a confounding factor. That’s kinda why I was thinking of Rome.
The president doesn’t have the political capital or enough popular support to take America to war with Canada or the Danes for Greenland.
He can bluster, bitch, and whine but he’s pretty impotent.
I’m willing to bet he’d try for Greenland. He’s certainly trying to get Venezuela to make the first move.
He fucking sucks I wish there was actually an easy way out of this
He will do it after a year of bombing Venezuela. He’s a big fan of hitler, so he will likely also start an unwinnable multi front war.
Maybe he’ll also die like Hitler
Given his age it’s a 50/50 chance. It took very long to get rid of hitler tho. I would wish the American people a sooner resolve.
Living in Alberta, I think the plan is to take Alberta if their Republican backed/funded separatist plans work out with our traitor MAGA premier. I’m not too worried, even though they just ignored the Forever Canada petition. Except in the scenario of low progressive voter turnout if they manage to get the signatures for the separatist one.
What helps is to recontextualize what you’re seeing. It makes you feel less crazy and helps to give you a sense of your place.
The reality is that the US is not becoming like Nazi Germany, but rather that Germany became like the United States through the Nazi movement, and then that Nazi movement was integrated into the United States, and now the United States is advancing the thing we know of as “fascism” or maybe more specifically “EuroFascism” or “North Atlantic Fascism”.
Racism as we know it today, is found all over the world. That’s NOT because racism as we know it coemerges naturally everywhere but rather because racism as we know it was invented by the European civilization and then imposed on 80% of the world’s population through imperial domination. This is important because it helps to understand what I mean when I say that Germany became like the United States.
Germany, like most Continental European countries, was not multicultural. The European nation states were generally monocultural and their techniques for survival involved the dominance of their one culture over another, often through the process of complete extermination or displacement. This expanded the boundaries of those states, but maintained them as a monoculture.
Settler colonialism started off this way - bring your culture and your people to a new land and begin the process of extermination and displacement until you have secured an outpost of your nation state in new territory. But this was incredibly inefficient, it turned out, and the Americas really showed that by being so goddamned big. A new way of colonial domination was invented in America and it drew on racial hierarchies articulated by European scientists to rationalize it. Did you know every single original medical university in the US had a huge role in the research and development of race science?
The integration of chattel slavery, reservation systems, child separation, cultural erasure, the creation of slave hierarchies where some slaves were masters over other slaves, the creation of inter-racial conflict between kidnapped and enslaved Africans and the indigenous… All of these advances were done here, in the Americas. The first gas chambers were invented by the French generals in Haiti, the same French generals that we look to as liberators and leftists in the US, because the Haitian slave revolt was so massive that the French needed efficient ways of killing large groups of them.
When you study the rise of the Third Reich and it’s leaders and philosophers, you find that they studied the US to learn how the Germans could achieve what the US had achieved. The Germans wanted to stop with this idea of just Germans owning and dominating nearby lands - there weren’t enough Germans! They needed to construct a cross-cultural race, the Aryan race, that could bind a disparate group of people together and build a greater violent force. Their intent was to invade the Slavic nations, invade Russia, and control all of the territory and resources there. To do this, though, they would need more than just extermination and displacement. They would need slave camps, reservations, they would need the Slavs to work and labor and toil but not revolt, they would need different groups to fight with each other, to fight for proximity to the Aryans for their own safety, they would need to advance the American system.
And they did. They made huge strides in developing what the Americans had made huge strides in developing from what the Americans had inherited from the British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Dutch. But, the Soviets won. The Soviets rallied every single ounce of self-preservation they could muster and they defeated the most powerful military ever fielded in Europe and marched all the way through Berlin.
And what happened. The Holy Roman Emperor - the Pope in the Vatican - to which we can trace the Doctrine of Discovery, the literal Pope started saving Nazis by getting them into monasteries and then relocating them to monasteries all around the world.
And the Americans helped. Truman oversaw the creation and execution of Operation Paperclip, which brought Nazis from all levels into the US and all over Americas. They were given money, property, jobs, security details, false identities, etc. And they were integrated into the US. The US put top Nazi officers in charge of NATO. The Allies put top Nazi politicians in charge of West Germany. It never ended.
The US isn’t becoming like the Nazis. The US inherits the fascistic empires of Europe, it advances that fascism to its highest known height, and then the Nazis emerge and extend the US’s program back into Europe, and then the Nazis are absorbed back into the US, and the US continues to develop the program, unhindered by any opponents, with a completely pacified and propagandized population.
When you realize this, you realize it’s no longer as crazy making. You have always been surrounded by Nazis or latent Nazis. The signs have always been here. You have been raised in text books worshipping genociders, slavers, rapists, human traffickers, drug dealers, and yes, fascists. The entirety of your upbringing, education, and social structures all conspire to integrate and obscure these things, because they are complicit in it. And up until such time as you realize what’s going on, you also are complicit in it
Now that you realize what’s going on, now the job is to figure out what to do about it. How to be less complicit, how to stop it, or how to build the momentum that will eventually stop it.
seems like the easiest most immediate answer would be to remove murdochs propaganda empire. his daughters want to sell out the business for scraps, only his son wants to continue the family business of spreading fear and hate across the western world
would some other parasite media-grifters fill that power vacuum? probably, but i doubt they’d be nearly as effecient
Murdoch’s empire is the tip of the iceberg, my fine feathered friend. The US government has been producing propaganda for its entire existence. It continues the propaganda that was produced by the English, Dutch, French and Spanish before it. The US military is a propaganda machine. US military intelligence is a propaganda machine. The US State department is a propaganda machine. Nearly everything said by electeds and appointeds are part of the narrative, knowingly or not. Our education system is fundamentally built on propaganda. Our advertising landscape. Our video games. Our literature. Not just the rags, but the real thoughtful stuff too.
It’s in the universities at every level, it’s in all the curriculum, it’s in the court system, in common law, in the jurisprudence. It’s in SCOTUS opinions. It’s in children’s rhymes and songs and school yard games. It’s in parenting. It’s in the churches and synagogues.
It’s quite literally the narrative equivalent to the air we breathe. No. Getting rid of Murdoch’s empire would do nothing. MSNBC is propaganda. WaPo, NYT, NPR, CNN… It’s all completely integrated into a long running white supremacist narrative.
Don’t believe me? Do you know about AIM? The American Indian Movement? When they were brought to court to face the state accusers the ultimate authority for the court’s decisions was none other than the fucking Doctrine of Discovery - literally a bulletin sent out by the Pope 600 years ago saying “Christianity must be spread. Save the heathens of the world. If they won’t be saved, enslave them, take their way of life from them and educate them, and if they fight back, kill them all”. Yeah. That’s what the court’s decided.
But that was like 50 years. Surely it’s not the same? A, that’s not how law works and B, nope. In the 2000s the SCOTUS heard a case involving Indian territory and RBG, liberal bastion, wrote the majority opinion and the decision rested on the Doctrine of Discovery, with RBG stating that the US would not have a legal basis for its territorial claims without it.
We are all living on land stolen under the decree of a fucking religious leader who said that genocide is OK because they weren’t going to be saved anyway. The Spanish were disgusting in a totally different way, choosing to interpret the decree as a license to rape as much as possible, steal children, and mix white blood with savage blood in an effort to bring the offspring of the savages closer to God.
But you’ll never learn that in grade K - 12. You’ll never learn that a Thanksgiving was a victory prayer that the white settlers held after successfully destroying a village of natives, killing everyone there or running them off. They were giving thanks to God for their victory. Again, not something we’re gonna teach kids.
Everything from the holidays we celebrate and don’t celebrate to the speeches given on those dates to the statues, paintings, poems, museum displays, historical markers on the highway.
It’s all a fucking narrative to cover for the absolutely brutal country we live in and have always lived in. The fascism didn’t start with the Nazis and we’re not just emulating them for some abberation in time.
This is who we are as settlers. This is our inheritance. This is what was done in our names, when our forefathers said “we need to make a better life for our grandchildren and their grandchildren and their grandchildren”. This is America. This is Canada. This what Europe unleashed on the world.
And this is what we have to clean up, arrest, and heal.
i get all that (random thought…it really is in our children’s game…musical chairs? disgusting little metaphor for ratfucking capitalism…damn) aight, but kicking over murdochs precarious pile of rocks right now would certainly be a step in the right direction, is all i’m saying.
It would certainly be cathartic
Jesus h, tldr
TL;DR: Nazis copied USA, USA is evolving its own Nazism that’s always been here.
“Don’t worry, it’s not new. Just getting worse ✨”
My uncle told me that canada is looking to expand its militia by 300k. If thats true I need to look into signing up. I like guns, my countries sovereignty, and I loathe American governments, ideology, and culture. I will absolutely die preventing my country from being annexed or invaded or whatever other stupid thing Trump and the other drooling masses of the USA want to do.
American here … can I join?
Just while you’re doing all that, don’t stop paying attention to your own country’s path. Regardless of what direction the US takes, other countries can also fall victim to the same things we did.
If it helps, many Americans like guns, your country’s sovereignty, and loathe our current government. I’m really hoping we can start getting our shit together in 2026.
Yeah well I don’t really see you guys doing anything about it and I have little faith that you ever will.
That’s fair. I go to protests but they don’t have as much impact as we need and plenty of people aren’t even really paying attention to what’s going on. I’m making some preparations for if/when shit really hits the fan, I wish I knew other people who are as well.
Violent dictators laugh at peaceful protests.
You are not exaggerating, except that what you point out is not certain to happen, and way too many people think it’s a great strategy to stick their head in the sand, thereby making it more likely to end up catastrophic.
Ditto
The world has always been on fire.
You should really study history for context.
“Made in Britain”
"The story of the human race is war. Except for brief and precarious interludes there has never been peace in the world…” - Winston Churchill
its mostly used as distraction from internal problems, wars, war on drugs, culture wars distraction from population issues, HCOL, healthcare, economy, enviromental problems , JOB PROSPECTS.
While I don’t see us as nazi germany yet I do see us pretty far along. Even when stopped it just leads to other tactics. They went after the beuracy and with a bit of push back they are using the sychophants they have gotten into military and police entities to attack both internall and externally. There is a real question if there will be masked paramilitary “making it safe” at the next election. Absolutely everyone should be taking every opportunity to be in the streets.
Grocery prices have gone up like 120% in the last 5 years. The cost of some items has doubled in the last year. There are items that I can’t order online because Canada refuses to ship to the US (I live closer to Canada than to most other states).
We are well and truly fucked my friends. Be prepared for things to keep getting worse. We will likely see things we haven’t seen since the Great Depression. Go watch “The Grapes of Wrath” and let old Tom Joad show you how it’s gonna be.
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