Is there any eta for this version releasing? Do you guys know if it will be in the App Store version?
Officially more feature complete than Apollo ever was /s
Seriously though we got drug out for like 4 years on an iPad version that never saw light of day. Christian even talked about showing a video when he posted about shutting Apollo down. And of course the video has never been released.
He probably wanted to do something too ambitious and feature-rich, and then could never finish it (sunk cost fallacy and all that); although many users would’ve already appreciated something simpler too, like the screenshot.
Yep he wouldn’t release it because he wanted it perfect (his words). I seriously doubt he put much work into it nor considered product plan for users.
Firstly, what happened with Apollo was awful after all the hard work that Christian put into it.
BUT he was/is terrible at acting in feedback from users. Consequently, the promised iPad app never appeared and there were bugs in Apollo that never got acknowledged let alone fixed. He didn’t use TestFlight properly so on three occasions there were show stopper releases that needed urgent fixes. The official Apollo forum was used for support but was often hostile to people who asked for help.
I don’t want to be too critical because Apollo was amazing, but all these things came from being a sole developer while also doing support and marketing. He needed to trust other people and get some help.
I’m also glad Christian isn’t making a Lemmy app. This enables other apps like Memmy and Mlem to gain traction and do it better. These aren’t solo developers. They are also OSS.
Well said I agree to it all.
I agree. All the bugs I ran into plus the toxic community (how DARE you insult His Majesty with bug reports you f—ing peasant?!) drove me away.
Which is funny because his closing post says “we want to be nice people” hence the “rules”… but the constant abuse of anyone who dared to report bugs was blatantly allowed and seemingly encouraged. No lone developer can possibly catch all bugs. It’s just a fact of life.
He could still release the video though…?
He wanted to do quite a bit more than a simple (semi-automatic) layout with a sidebar and main content. While this may look great at first glance, how useful it it really? There’s a lot more to UX.
But he didn’t right?
Did yesterday: https://mastodon.social/@christianselig/110713348563959302
Thanks for posting.
Oh no! You got us! But I gotta confirm that it’s intentional (this great iPad experience doesn’t come for free, and the app in the background was adapted to look especially good on all platforms) but still not polished enough for release, there are a few extra iPad fixes splattered around various PRs that make the experience much nicer, Just wait until the cake’s done baking and I hope everyone will be wowed
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MudNao-W1eRGZndv-3FeweqH8UP15x2O/view?usp=sharing
Ayy that’s awesome! And it looks great so far! I love the custom swipe animation for comments! Are there any plans to bring it to macOS through catalyst? I got it working (sorta) but I’m no programmer so I couldn’t solve any of the bugs haha. But it’s looking sick, great job!
Aw man, supporting another platform is a bit tough atm, and we certainly can’t commit to the Mac at this point, but just for you I threw in a bunch of extra Catalyst fixes so the app won’t crash so much, and do stuff like properly save accounts
https://github.com/mlemgroup/mlem/pull/167
(If you know how to clone and build that branch I would love some feedback, that’s where all the extra iPad stuff goes)
(Writing this from my Mac 💻 😉) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RlFDc3sklSpuH6Oor8uNK32bpyHiv5UH/view?usp=share_link
Oh, that’s awesome dude, thank you so much! And perfect reasonable about not working on three platforms at once for now haha! I’ll definitely give it a go tomorrow (Australian time) and report some bugs although I’m admittedly not 100% sure what you mean about cloning the branch. Do you mean on GitHub?
Here’s a direct link to the version of the app that contains all the iPad fixes
https://github.com/mlemgroup/mlem/zipball/tht7/initial-ipad-support
Have fun!
Wow, this works great! Sorry, I don’t use GitHub very much haha. Where do you want me to report issues? Should I just post them as an issue on the main page or is there a specific iPad version I should use?
I think just open an issue on the main app issue tracker, assign it to me (“tht7”) and we’ll see how we roll from there
It doesn’t look like I actually have the permissions to assign issue to people or add labels. I even thought I was just missing something and looked at GitHub’s documentation to see how to do it and the button wasn’t there on my screen. But I submitted the issue and tagged you. Hope there’s a bit in there for ya. And thanks for making such a great app! I’m loving it on my Mac so far too
That’s what I do as well, build the current master branch every few days with enabled iPad support. I guess there are some bugs in the UI since the support comes directly from SwiftUI, which does not always does the job 100% perfect automatically. But for my purpose to be able to just use slideover on an iPad this is already working fine.
Yeah, it’s really good on my end! Although it breaks a bit if I build for macOS
