I love many different genres of music. However I just have never been able to get into Prince. I actually do like that genre/style of music, I just cannot get it for some reason. And I know hes lauded as a musical genius, and I dont see why.
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It may not seem like it, because the music is so polished, but he was one of the most accomplished guitarists of the last 50 years. He commanded perfection from himself and his band.
Start with the biggest hits. Listen to the instrumentation. Ignore the lyrics if they’re not your jam but listen to the vocals. Listen to his various bass players and how they lock in with the drummers. Dig the tonality and nearly impeccable execution of note choice.
I was lucky enough to see him in Seattle just before he died. My girlfriend at the time snuck me into the show. It was unreal.
This was more or less same idea I had. Only thing I might add is nobody should feel compelled to like all music; as for me, even if I don’t care for an artist’s music, I can often appreciate the technical quality of their composition.
Only thing I might add is nobody should feel compelled to like all music
The person asked for help, literally. These are my suggestions for Prince. Come on.
Edit: Lemmy dogpile mode.
And the other person just said: “to add”, so nothing you said should be removed or was not worthwhile.
Chill and relax, it was added in a constructive way to your already very helpful comment.
Dude, that wasn’t a critique. And even if it was, my entire tone was constructive. Maybe don’t take things quite so personal?!
I did not mean any offense. Really.
What if it’s just not for you? Not in a bad way, but in a blunt, not everything is for everybody way? To me thats ok.
Art comes to us 1. at a time 2. in a place 3. in a culture.
Those things together sometimes make magic for millions and it’s cool. But sometimes all of them are off just enough to make the art uncompelling - we just can’t get into it. Name a top artist of the last 50 years, and there a millions of people who would give anything to see them one more time, and millions (who have listened) and it just doesn’t do anything for them.I’ve heard a couple of 60’s big acts say I’m not sure how you could enjoy our music without living the lifestyle we were into back then. That scratches at the thing I’m talking about, it’s sometimes a bit of ‘you had to be there.’ That phrase is abused, but when it’s used right it has meaning. You’re hanging out with friends and the funniest thing happens. The next day you try to tell the story and it falls so flat of the experience. It was a time, a place, a people that made the magic.
Agreeing with other folk who point to his mastery, his craft, his ingenuity, his artistry, integrity. And those are all arguably real, measurable and true. But that doesn’t mean it will speak to everyone. Or even be enjoyable by everyone.
for me to get Prince, I had to be a teenager first experiencing life and love and pain, and seeing Purple Rain as my first real musical movie, and having a brother who thought Prince as a genius, and a few close friends who would loan me the albums, and a tape deck to listen to on the way to school, and a radio that was playing the new hits - Abracadabra, Jack and Diane, and Hard to Say I’m Sorry, You Dropped the Bomb on Me, and Oh Mickey. In that soup, 1999 comes to me and I see it in Technicolor somehow, and it seeps in, and I read the liner notes, and lay on the floor listening, imagining. I had to have the mystery about a man who really only had one name, and what the word androgynous means. I think I had to have all of these things to get Prince. And for years I did. And I got older, and I got it less, and others more, and maybe back again a couple of times. The last thing is the new of it all. You cant recapture, re-experience the new - and once it’s here it changes all of us, and everything is maybe a bit different and maybe a bit better, but it’s near impossible to look back and feel what happened, you can only feel it going forward. I’d like to feel the Beatle’s coming to America, or Chuck Berry on TV, or Getting muddy at Woodstock, but that’s not really a thing. You can read, and watch, and learn get an appreciation, but we can’t recatch old waves.
Prince had never really been on my radar until I saw this performance
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uWc4wMyL1oI&list=RDuWc4wMyL1oI&start_radio=1
I had no idea he was that talented
Now here he is on bass. I’m a bass player for 25 years and he’s better than me. https://youtu.be/RYCt6pPsjHM
Also the best Superbowl halftime show of all time.
that riff started around 4:11 is just fucking lovely
Yup, that was my first thought as soon as I read op’s question.
Prince is one of the best guitar players of all time, which doesn’t always shine through on his singles. Watch his live performances. For example, here’s Prince covering Led Zeppelin’s “Whole Lotta Love” in 2002. The dude commands the stage
He makes that shit look effortless
I also highly recommend the George Harrison Rock and Roll hall of fame induction ceremony! He wasn’t a perfect person and he also released some shit songs… but holy fuck, he was a phenomenal guitarist and showman! Also watch Purple Rain and then listen to the album, it’s cheesy, but in all the right ways!
I like Prince. He’s just not one of the best guitar players of all time. Not even remotely close to being in the conversation. I know it’s subjective, but also it’s just not.
So the subjective part is the question of is he one of the best of all time. Sure, we can have that conversation. But the part where you’re outright wrong is where you exclude him from being remotely close to that conversation.
As a guitarist, Prince has:- Impeccable musical ear
- Intuitive note selection
- Technical mastery of the instrument
- Perfect timing
- Improvisation so good you couldn’t sit and write better lines
- Riffs for days
- Sold 150000000+ records, in a time when that mattered
I think the above definitely puts him in the running. You might not like it, but he’s up there. I’d rather collaborate with Prince than Eric Clapton, say, and he’s supposed to be one of the greats. I think Knopfler breasts Prince quite handily, but I’m not so sure George Harrison was better. (I’m sure George would say Prince was better)
Yeah it’s subjective, but you can also break it down into categories related to technical proficiency, improvisational ability, musicality, etc., and I think Prince is near the top of them all. I’m curious who you think is among the best guitarists if Prince isn’t one of them
thats a crazy statement considering he can outplay damn near anybody
Help I’m being gaslit.
I mean when you set up an argument like that, what’s the response? “No! you’re wrong!”
A lot of people think he’s an incredible guitarist. A lot of highly-regarded guitarists think he’s an incredible guitarist. I know these are appeals to authority, but just because he’s not in your top 5/10/100 doesn’t mean he’s not one of the best.
Do you like any of the other songs he’s written for others:
Nothing compares to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-EF60neguk
Manic Monday: the bangles (I personally hate this one) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsmVgoXDq2w
Jungle Love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2FPQvwhSDY
Stand Back (not personally a fan of this either): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwS9BIqbffU
How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Jt1jSimjs
I didn’t really “get” Prince at first either. His biggest radio hits didn’t quite click for me. But then I watched a full concert video and loved it. He was just radiating energy the entire show in a way that wasn’t quite captured by the studio recordings IMO. And I think it’s one thing to read that he was an incredible multi-instrumentalist versus actually watching him absolutely shred on several different instruments at different times throughout the show.
I think that’s true. There are some artists that after you see them live, all their music seems better. Of course, sometimes the opposite is true.
Some of his albums I like a lot more than others. Try Parade and 1999 super deluxe edition. If you can’t find something you like on those then you just don’t like Prince. And that’s okay.
Prince’s albums have a lot of diversity over the years. Depends on what you like. I’m particularly fond of 1999 as his classic pop album, but sign-o-the-times is more ecclectic with jazz and funk. While among his least popular, my personal fav is the truth. It was supposed to be a bonus disc on Crystal Ball, but didn’t make it for whatever reasons. I adore it because of the excellent recording qualities, it’s a mostly acoustic album wich is an oddity for prince, and he clearly doesn’t take anything too, too seriously, but shows his chops as a master multi-instrumentalist.
He went through a smooth jazz phase which was respectable, Musicology is another tight album on the pop side of things.
Not necessarily something that would get you into his music, but one of the coolest things I ever heard was when he was asked if he would still be able to play the Super Bowl halftime show in heavy rain, and he responded “can you make it rain harder?”
Let’s go crazy is a bop. Sweet guitar. Can still dance to it. That’s the main song of his I love. Not all his stuff is like that. Agree I don’t like his slower stuff.
Short answer, it’s down to taste.
Prince is a genial performer and composer, in particular during the early 80s with the Minneapolis Sound: a unique style of New Wave based on Pop Funk Rock, and a precursor of explicit horny vibe after the first Glam Rock period. I like to compare Prince to Michael Jackson: where MJ is just a boring Disco Pop, Prince is the real king of Pop in the same period starting with the crazy Dirty Mind LP. In Purple Rain you can find the peak of a Minneapolis Sound with the Hard Rock influences.
Clanker.
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Idk I like when doves cry. But I find most of his other radio songs almost unlistenable. The guitar intro for when doves cry is badass enough though that it makes me curious about his not radio shit.
God do I ever hate Raspberry Beret though.
how can u not pour your heart out during the beautiful ones
I’m not a “pour your heart out” kind of music guy.
i cant fathom this information
Hahahaha I don’t know what to tell ya.
You bring the ski masks, I’ll bring the shovels. Let’s go get him.
I added his entire discography to my library when he died, but found I had to explicitly exclude him from my general random background playlist as it was too jarring when he popped up.
I decided to include him again about 6 months ago, and I now find him tolerable as the rest of my library has grown in size and scope.
It’s ok not to like something just because eveyone else does .For example i can’t stand Bob dylan but i appreciate millions of people adore him,he’s just not for me.
