• morto@piefed.social
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    24 hours ago

    Depends on what we call work. Food in nature is free in the economic sense, but spending time and effort gathering it can be considered work as well, and maybe isn’t as joyful as we can expect, especially when doing it for the 3427th time, and when it hasn’t regrown since last time we collected, so we need to go further of find alternate sources.

    I like to put a clear distinction on what is work in the broader sense, and what is capitalist work. We don’t need capitalist work to live, and we would be better without it, but some form of daily struggle to maintain ourselves, we will probably always have, unfortunately.

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      15 hours ago

      That’s why he distinguished work from effort though. But I think the concept we’re looking for here is called alienation.

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      23 hours ago

      Getting rid of capitalist work would be great. We can mostly leave things as they are, except git rid corporate ownership of anything, and corporate personhood.

      You sign a contract with a real, living person. If you must sign with a company, you sign a contract that binds every officer of that company personally. If a company does something illegal, well, it didn’t. A person in that company did something illegal and the highest ranking person on that contract needs to take personal responsibility for it and go to prison for murder, tax evasion, or whatnot.

      Also regulate the stock market until it’s almost completely gone. It’s not a good place for retirement accounts, and that’s the only good thing that the stock market has going for it.

      Then add in a few fix actions in general, like limit home and land ownership to what a person actually uses. No squatting on homes to rent them out.

      Also full medical and dental for everyone, no private ownership of either practice. As a doctor, dentist, or nurse, you are suddenly a government employee, with government certification and training programs that are open to anyone who applies. Most people wouldn’t make it through the program (and background check) but anyone could try.

      Add in some more social safety nets, and life could be good.

      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        5 hours ago

        Fuck that sands like a great mid step on the way to full Communism. Even just the part of forcing there to always be an accountable person would be amazing and fix so many issues.

    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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      18 hours ago

      I like to put a clear distinction on what is work in the broader sense, and what is capitalist work.

      This here. Also important when you ask people about their work; I try to make it increasingly clear that I’m not asking about where they get their money from.