He also went on a racist tirade about black women in positions of power
If we would have said three weeks ago […] that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative-action picks, we would have been called racist. But now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us! They’re coming out and they’re saying, “I’m only here because of affirmative action.”
Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
They played a clip of Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee and continued
We know. We know. It’s very obvious to us you are not smart enough to be able to get it on your own. “I could not make it on my own, so I needed to take opportunities from someone more deserving.”
This was on The Charlie Kirk Show from July 13, 2023 so this isn’t take out of context at all, this was the message he wanted people to hear.
And then all conservatives all acted as if he indeed said that hiring should be merit based, which goes to show that Republicans and conservatives are liars
Charlie Kirk? The hypocrite that claimed to be pro-life? Just look how that turned out.
I’m so glad that any time I hear Charlie Kirk I can just know his throat was blown apart and he can’t say shit ever again. Bliss.
Sometimes we do get happy endings 🙂
Seriously I have a tendency of saying “kill yourself” whenever a video shows a video of fascist ghouls. With Kirk I take satisfaction in not needing to say it.
Don’t forget that he also said Michelle Obama took a white woman’s job.
And he also said her, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Joy Reed all “did not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously.”
And to be clear he used the word “stole” not just take.
People assume that there is always a more qualified and capable white guy and hiring committees are just being forced to choose less capable women and people of color because of DEI. This is literally the reason why we need DEI initiatives, because in a pool of equally qualified candidates, white men are assumed to be somehow superior.
It’s hard to find strongly qualified, non-white male candidates in some sectors simply because we’ve been oppressing the crap out of women and POC for so long that they aren’t in the market getting experience.
Even if DEI brings in a slightly less skilled candidate, they come up to speed and then have the experience to stay in the market.
We need DEI to make sure the workplaces mirror the population distribution.
I always overestimate a maga’s ability to read or hear things that are actually said. I keep giving them the benefit of the doubt. I keep being hopeful. And then promptly let down.
EG: Always expect the people on jubilee actually researched their own question with the idea they accurately quoted the problem they actually have with the previous dem governments.
Almost without fail: Then the person answers and EVERY TIME they are correcting a misheard quote that the right are trying to morph into the argument they want to have.
And then the right side panel comes in as a double down on how woefully off the mark the right are.
I mean I get it, they are frustrated. And most have reason to be but it takes so much to get to the rub. they seem heavily distracted from discussing what their real problems are and it takes these patient people to decompress the fact out of it to address the real problem.
EG this woman had an issue with a doctor. Felt ignored. Was ignored. Blamed the left. Misquoted a bunch of stuff that she had been programmed to say. Watched a doctor deconstruct it for her during jubilee just so she could actually be heard regarding a problem that affects both the left and the right.
It took all that.
Just seems right politics are about distracting frustrated people just to use them. And it’s really fricken sad.
Don’t engage with jubilee. It’s the worst and it makes people worse.
Okay, I’ll ask since I can’t be the only one: the fuck is a jubilee?
Its a channel on YouTube that makes these surrounded videos that are often political where they get 20 of x vs 1 of y where both groups are opposed in some way. 20 people sit around the 1 person and they race each other to the middle seat to debate on whatever the prompt is. Some of them can be interesting, but it often gets pretty toxic and generally doesn’t feel productive and more just like political entertainment.
Thanks for the explanation.
Among fascists, telling obvious lies and getting away with it is seen as a power move. That’s why they always start screeching about “discriminashun” when called out.
None of them can explain why “merit based” systems that result in only white males getting promoted can still be called merit based. They haven’t spoken to as many incompetent white men in leadership as I have i suppose. My favorite one violates employee rights so often he has his own HR rep assigned to him, instead of just firing him for the verbal and sexual harassment.
I mean, that does align with their other beliefs
It’s literally just Prosperity Gospel. They believe we already live in a meritocracy, therefore the white people that were getting the jobs were the most qualified. They’re there because they’re the best, and they’re the best because they’re there. Therefore any efforts to give a chance to people who didn’t have those same opportunities through DEI programs necessarily requires that those people are not as good of candidates.
It is literally impossible for these people to understand that they aren’t changing the requirements at all in almost any case. That all that’s happening in most any case of a DEI program is that they’re giving the same consideration to a black or brown person that didn’t have the same networking connections as the legacy white guy whose Dad goes to the same country club as the hiring manager or whatever.
Which is absolutely hilarious when you think about it. Because if our system was annually based on merit half of these people crying about “DEI Hires” would never actually have gotten hired themselves for their own positions. Most of these people are where they are because of who their parents were and who they knew. If you peeled that away and evaluated them anonymously against a comparable “DEI Hire” they’d get BTFO pretty much every time.
Or about how “meritocracy” is an intrinsic classist system, when investing in education isn’t evenly distributed.
when investing in education isn’t evenly distributed.
Can’t have a meritocracy without equity in opportunity. Anyone who claims they support a meritocracy but not social programs to make it possible is full of shit.
Equal opportunity with public funds to fully support that in education and basic needs.
Oh yeah it doesnt start and stop at education for sure. Housing security, food security, the list goes on.
And, IMO, well worth it for so many reasons.
I’m sure they could could explain it but them they’d have to explain their Totenkopf tattoo.
to these white supremacists and white supremacist apologists, the current secdef is qualified.
My favorite one … has his own HR rep assigned to him
Ohh, so that’s why they’re often called “job creators”
Im pro meritocracy! Thats very easily explainable. Its because of a couple factors, but the big ones are lack of generational wealth among minorities and a differance in avialability of opportunity.
Because of societal issues in the past, minorities were less positioned to take advantage of
peoplethe economy. This means they were unable to accrue generational wealth, which directly leads into support systems that every single person relies on. Without that generational wealth you are less likely to take risks, stunting further economic growth. It also limits your ability to network, which is how you gain influence.This directly leads to lower quality of education, less vocational training, higher crime rates, and a slew of other issues, which all directly impact your ability to gain and maintain new skills.
I believe the best person available should be flying my plane. Under our current system, that “best person” is likely a white male pilot because he had the strongest support systems and the generational wealth required to grant him the opportunities to refine his skills. Im not racist for wanting the best pilot. I would be racist if i failed to recognise that that best pilot is going to be white due to historical imbalance of opportunity.
In fairness, that doesn’t sound like a problem with the merit-based system, sounds more like your organisation’s HR policies and enforcement are just weaker than cheap beer.
The problem with having too many white males isn’t an issue with “meritocracy”?
That is a different question:
[…] as many incompetent white men in leadership as I have i suppose. My favorite one violates employee rights so often he has his own HR rep assigned to him, instead of just firing him for the verbal and sexual harassment.
That senior employee is being held there by either a system that doesn’t value its employees which would be a HR issue; or is showing behaviours that aren’t being challenged by their own line management - also indirectly an HR issue. You can have fifteen different systems for promoting the workforce but they would fail if they’re not challenged effectively or the HR policies aren’t robust enough to get this dude sacked.
The problem with having too many white males
I absolutely agree with you with this part. There’s dozens of reasons why this is the case. It’s a global tragedy that we’ve got this far in the world and we’ve not been able to remove the barriers for people in minority or marginalised groups entering or rising through the workforce.
The number and nature of those barriers is worth of - and have been - studies in themselves.
You’re argument is weaker than a bucket of beer flavored piss…
They realize. They’re just lying.
It’s a motte-and-bailey argument, in fact. The whole purpose of the “skill based hiring” argument is to serve as a comfortable retreat from the more controversial “black people can’t fly planes”.
It is always based upon skills. DEI just asks employers to consider hiring outside white males. This is a bridge too far for racists.
“You see, when I change the words he said to be adjacent, and less offensive, you guys calling him bad names are the real baddies”.
My favourite version of this is the “you’re just taking what he said out of context” replies to people quoting the shitty things he said… Then you go back to the original context to check and it’s actually much worse.
They’re lying to fool themselves when playing to the middle. The middle is who they’re trying to convince be on their side.
“Skill first” but then crying when the best person is black. That’s racist.
“Skill first” for these people is a disingenuous attempt to make their racism sound rational.
No no, he’s not racist because he’s talking about DEI, which is a right wing talking point which argues that DEI is a national protocol which allows unqualified black people and women taking white male jobs. Because white men are the only people qualified to do the high paying jobs obviously.
I bet she believes the Civil War was about “States Rights” too. 😉
Knew what it was before I even clicked on it. 😁
i love seeing white folks explain racism 🍿
And I love when people caste others by their race, telling them what they can and cannot do based on it 🍿
Poor white people, they have it so hard. 😢
How stupid does a person have to be to attack an ally who is in the midst of defending someone being oppressed?
They realize, and they lie, or they think it’s OK anyway. Probably they tell themselves that everyone is secretly racist, so it’s all a question of camouflage.
