• Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    If they literally stop them from abducting and deporting people it’s not all for show. Why can’t people on this site ever say hey, that’s a good step? You’re so all or nothing, it’s tiring.

    Hey Minne PD, Lemmy says “Not good enough!”, so fuck it.

    • AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      This is only a symbolic gesture until we see actual literal results. Those results are already questionable because we know they won’t be arresting these criminals.

      I’m not sure what you see this officer having done other than talk about encouraging his officers to do part of their job or risk losing it.

      This isn’t actually doing anything. This is barely an announcement of public intent to in the future do something. Every time the police don’t do something will be evidence that this was full of shit. If an officer does something as a result of this order it can’t even be praised because of what it’s taken to force them to do it.

      They aren’t actually going to do it though. This is all marketing and public relations nonsense. This is purely performative. If I’m wrong I will be so happy to be wrong.

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      8 hours ago

      Because they’re still literally not doing their jobs.

      As an example, let’s say I flip burgers for a living. You come in to my restaurant and order a cheeseburger. I then proceed to slap a hunk of raw ground beef and a slice of cheese down right on the counter in front of you. That’ll be $8.50, pay up.

      You aren’t going to say “that’s progress!” you’re going to say “that’s not a fucking cheeseburger”.

      Same here. Yeah, it is progress forward from the literal nothing that they were doing before. It still is not satisfactory progress that satisfies the basic job requirements of their chosen career.

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        you can’t apply group behaviour to single events… it takes time to change human behaviour in a group - especially when it’s politicised behaviour … if every restaurant were serving raw patties and raw was incorrectly politicised as “healthier” and then 50% started being cooked you’d say that’s progress… it’d remain horrible, but it is indeed progress and clearly those doing better should be congratulated for somehow managing to get their shit together even a little bit

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        Trump and his MAGA machine definitely want to see local law enforcement (particularly “blue city” cops like Minneapolis) fire the first shots at National Guard, it lets them enter a new form of oppression. Arresting National Guard would be received as an act of war, and everyone involved here understands that.

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        But it literally is progress if every restaurant you go to and order a cheeseburger says “Fuck you, I’ll take my $8.50 and you have to leave”. There’s a weird presumption here that you could go somewhere else and get the whole burger just how you like it and you absolutely can’t.

        A better analogy is that you go to a chain restaurant and the regional manager comes in to spit on your food and undercook your patty but the franchise workers say “we might let you under cook it because you’re sort of the boss, but that’s as much lenience as you get”.

        Not perfect, but still city or state action against the Fed is progress considering the group of people who are officers at any level are probably closer to homegenous than the regular population.

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          I can cook my own burger and that’s the direction “justice” is going if shit stays on this trajectory.

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            You sure can. There are two things I can’t say about that though:

            1. That I don’t support it
            2. That you won’t get an extreme punishment.
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      8 hours ago

      Because everything is absolute. Purity tests are exactly that. It’s not pure. Therefore we rail against it.

      Democrats? Ho ho! SO not pure. The Constitution? I laugh! Created by slave owners! Don’t even get me started on our MAGA parents. The time of purification is at hand!

      But we’re not allowed to say that unless we face the horrifying charge of being boot lickers. And the fact that it’s literally russia’s playbook for destabilizing the country and installing a demented rapist puppet is insane conjecture. Nothing to see here. Squirrel!

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      im sure they’re reading this. pumping their fists at your defense of their inadequacy.

      why dont you go get a staph infection and take only half your antibiotic course. surely something is better than nothing at all, right? tell me how that works out for you.

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        Half a course would be better than nothing. A full course would be best, but half is a LOT better than none.

        The general way to make lasting changes stick is to support moves in the correct direction. Improvements are generally 1000 tiny steps, rather than 1 big leap.

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          Half a course is NOT better than nothing - it basically kills off only the weaker bacteria, leaving behind only those that have started mutating a resistance to the antibiotic.

          An effective course of antibiotics leaves no possibility for survivors.

          Here’s a good demo of what happens when you give them a graduated path to climb (such as by taking half a course of antibiotics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVk4NVIUh8

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          congratulations on your antibiotic resistant MRSA. make sure to spread it around so everyone else gets to enjoy the benefits of your inadequate treatment.