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      Was it multiple monitors or multiple systems? Can’t see if there’s another keyboard and mouse there in front of the one behind him. Though I suppose it was all supposed to be mainframe terminals (running Linux in the movie, which I’m not sure had a mainframe version, as I understand, it started as a Unix for desktops, where Unix was the mainframe OS).

      Edit: the Linux thing was my own bad memory, Lex recognizes Unix, which is weird because it was an experimental unix filesystem browser UI and most kids wouldn’t have access to machines that run any kind of unix, so it wouldn’t have been a “I played with some computers in my garage” kind of thing. Though being Hammond’s grandkids, it’s not outside the realm of possibility that she did have access to a mainframe either through Hammond’s companies or from access to universities and the like.

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    Holy shit, this thread made me realize Hammond invited the scientists and grandkids to the island with a hurricane inbound. Not like those things just pop up like tornadoes. You know it’s coming as much as a week in advance.

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    This joke comes from people ignoring the following:

    1. The presence of Ray Arnold the Chief Engineer who also worked with computers (not to the same level as Nedry)

    2. Jurassic Park was operating with a skeleton crew at the time and Hammond thought the automated systems would work because he was assured as much from his Chief IT guy.

    3. Nedry has a whole team working on the park’s IT system. And I’m not just referencing book material. Hammond even said in the BLOODY movie “call Nedry’s team on the main land” when shit started going down.

    So no. Hammond was not stupid enough to trust the entire park’s computer infrastructure on just one guy.

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      The presence of Ray Arnold the Chief Engineer

      Two IT guys

      Jurassic Park was operating with a skeleton crew at the time

      The opening scene - a working class schlub dragged into the Velociraptor cage because the transport protocols weren’t up to the task of containing a dinosaur - illustrates the core conceit of the movie. That humans and their modern technology simply aren’t ready to contend with a far more primal and powerful animal kingdom.

      The hurricane flushing everyone off the island illustrated a major vulnerability. But the premise of the movie is that this park was never going to work precisely because the people running it were consumed by their own hubris and incapable of seeing the full extend of risk at play.

      Nedry has a whole team working on the park’s IT system.

      A team he’s undercut and sabotaged in order to afford him the opportunity to steal Hammond’s embryos. The subsequent movies are all around various mega-corps trying to seize control of the island and its bounty of dinosaur specimens and failing time and time again. The issue isn’t merely that they’re cheap, its that they’re all greedy, myopic, and self-destructive.

      Hammond was not stupid enough to trust the entire park’s computer infrastructure on just one guy.

      He was stupid enough to get locked out of his own systems by trusting a skeleton crew to manage the park during a hurricane. But that’s just the kick-off of the story. Crichton could have written it differently - an engineering problem that the hurricane exposed, dinosaurs that outsmarted the security, the EPA coming in to shut the park down Ghostbusters style, animal liberation activists trying to free the dinosaurs - and ended in the same place.

      In many ways, Jurassic Park is a retelling of King Kong. Just swap out the big monkey for a big lizard. But the core of the story - the belief that humans can turn these primal forces into an entertainment commodity revealing man’s hubris - is tied up in Hammond’s belief in his ability to control the uncontrollable.

      Nedry is just an example of one more thing Hammond can’t control.

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      Also, it’s not like the problems were only caused by Nedry or his team being understaffed or incompetent. Quite the opposite. He was a bad actor. And a bad actor in the right position can cause a lot of damage. He purposefully sabotaged the park in a way that couldn’t have been easily averted.

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        It was a low bid contract and Nedry was complaining about how he underbid and wanted more money. So Hammond was delusional when he said they spared no expense, he cheaped out on labour.

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    That’s exactly the point. They did spare expenses, on a lot of things.

    John Hammond Jurassic Park book spoilers

    John Hammond is clearly portrayed as a villain in the book. They lightened him up in the movie.

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      Supposedly, that is the whole deal with the Chilean Sea Bass that he gloats about. Spared no expense. Apparently that fish sounds fancy, but is actually super cheap. The whole park needed to have the shine of a top-of-the-line facility, but in the end, Ingen and Hammond had no idea what they were really cooking up.

      The raptors for instance, I always got the feeling that paddock was kind of small and rapidly constructed. Those things had killed multiple people in the past, and the park’s response was cram them into a jail cell. You’d think an intelligent, dangerous animal, that was not part of the tour or experience would be euthanized, rather than risk the whole park…but here is Ingen not dealing with the problem, and instead, actively making more raptors.

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        They just needed Chris Pratt, Raptor Whisperer and they would have been fine.

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      The movie really dumbed Hammond down to “overly optimistic money guy with a vision”. Which was a bit distasteful if you’ve read the books. Just a bit.

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        Maybe. I really preferred the movie version. Sometimes I prefer to like characters. I enjoyed the story more.

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          I liked movie Hammond too, don’t get me wrong. It’s just a completely different story because of the character shift.

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      The book was a million times better than the movie. It was the first time I had read a novel that was turned into a movie and then saw the movie after reading the novel.

      14-year-old me had never been so disappointed. And it taught me to never ever read the book before the movie.

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          For me, it was really mostly the story changes they made so the movie could be rated PG instead of R. They also made some changes to some of the characters and the dialogue which made it come off a lot more cheesy than the book. Although, I will say, gender swapping the kids was a good move. I liked that it was the girl who was the UNIX whiz. In 1993, that felt like an especially fresh take.

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          I saw once that the reason Kristen Stewart was so hated in the Twilight movies is because all the young women who grew up reading the books imagined themselves as Bella. They were never going to like whichever actress was cast into the role since they would no longer be able to project their own likeness onto the protagonist.

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        My wife always gets excited when a book she loves is being adapted (right now Verity and project hail Mary) but I learned from many disappointments to not get excited. I still watch most of them but I don’t expect too much

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          After seeing the trailer for project, Hail Mary, it seems like they’re gonna stick pretty close to the book. Like they did with the Martian.

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    He is the only one on the island but there are more developers. Hammond even says to “call his team In Cambridge”.

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    I dont remember the movie well but I thought everyone left the island and this was the minimum team left behind.

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      Yes, Nedry owned his IT company, but Hammond was withholding Nedry’s final paycheck until debugging was done. Which had already gone over budget due to feature creep, so Nedry was doing it himself because he didn’t have money to pay his people because Hammond wouldn’t give him the money they agreed on. Hence why Nedry was looking to make some side money, he’s literally doing all that debugging and final system fixes for free on the promise that he won’t be screwed again by Hammond. IIRC anyway, its been like 30 years since I read the book… And a lot of my perspective changed as I got older and I got more experience in the industry. As a kid, I thought you took the job you should do the job, but as an adult I understand a lot better the dynamics of the situation and while I still think if you took the job you should do the job, I completely understand the feeling of getting Fucked by someone who would rather throw money at lawyers than just pay what they agreed on.

      I have been in his position, and while I didn’t betray the client and get killed, I really understand his mindset and “Fuck-it” attitude. Hammond is wealthy and using his position and power to spare as much expense as possible and step on as many contractors as possible. Kind of like an Orange Cheeto I know of. I had a company I work for that had to file bankruptcy because a half-billion dollar a year company hired us then charged back their initial payment and refused to issue final payment unless we did a ton of extra work, and when we did that, they just said “thanks” and vanished. Apparently American Express lets you contest a payment 6-12 months after it was issued and their stance is if you want your money you should sue.

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          Yes, actually, I betrayed the client by preparing lots of paperwork and examples of the system working so when they went to court they would actually have to defend their position.

          It didn’t help me not get laid off though because losing 4 months of payroll in a chargeback is pretty brutal for a company’s books.

          And that company never came back from it. A subdivision of the company, survived, but the company lost its building, and most of its employees during the bankruptcy and restructuring. And it happened right before Christmas, so the entire company got laid off for the holidays, it was a lot of fun /s. Fuck predatory self-help companies…

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      I was just thinking about this yesterday - and how it seems like one of the very few flaws with the film was how unclear they made this. Nearly everyone misunderstands this. It would have really helped if there’d been a couple more lines on it, or shots of staff clearing out, etc. Instead it seemed like there were about 10 people at the whole park.

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      Nedry was the systems engineer, Arnold was the operations admin. One was a construction worker, the other was the architect. Neither can truly do the other’s job, but are aware of how they do it.

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    Ah, a rubber duck debugging adherent. At least they paid good money for a professional.

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      Arnold was an engineer, though. He was competent in using the system and not totally lost when poking around the code, but he’s no computer scientist. Basically, he was a power user / sysadmin rather than a developer.

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    Pretty farken standard. IT isn’t considered important unless they want their personal laptop de-porned

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        As a young child who didn’t yet know what Barbasol was, I was still a little disappointed to find out that the can was not, in fact, filled with delicious whipped cream