• MonkeyTown@midwest.social
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    5 hours ago

    The illusion of choice is even more illusory than it seems.

    Even if there was real choice inherent in the systems themselves, most people have limited ability to take advantage of said choice without completely starting over, usually with damn near nothing.

    What I mean is most people aren’t wealthy, they don’t have in-demand skills, they don’t have family abroad, they can’t get sponsors to other countries. That means they are effectively stuck wherever they are, until something so bad happens they have to abandon their lives and flee.

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    6 hours ago

    In Italy we had a communist party in parliament but not anymore since Berlusconi (wich fortunately died After 4 terms)

    I Hope every day we Will have a real left again in Italy, wich now Is like these other countries

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    1 day ago

    But I can say mean things to my government(that they ignore) so is very democratic. If I can VOTE(the most important thing) and if I can complain, it’s democracy.

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      5 hours ago

      If I can VOTE(the most important thing)

      Ancient Greek democracy begs to differ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

      They argued that electoralism will result in rich amd artistocracy corrupting the whole process and getting into power and never letting it go, focusing on their own selfish interests

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        5 hours ago

        My comment is sarcastic.

        They argued that electoralism will result in rich amd artistocracy corrupting the whole process and getting into power and never letting it go, focusing on their own selfish interests

        Thank goodness that never happened!

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      14 hours ago

      If voting didn’t work, you will blame it on corruption or unprecedented times like war or natural disaster.

      Its either democracy or some external thing happened, never that voting didn’t bring democracy.

      And we haven’t even touched the subject of legally making it difficult for minority and “unwanted” groups to vote. We also didn’t talk about immigrants who live work and pay taxes but are not represented by voting

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        7 hours ago

        My criticism is that the average person thinks that democracy and politics are just about voting. Voting is the bare minimum to engage in a democracy, only voting every 2-4 years achieves nothing.