• nysqin@feddit.org
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    8 hours ago

    one side is saying how shit you are and how you deserve nothing. it’s only women who are worthwhile and you should just fuck off and die.

    Except this is a right-wing talking point and a misrepresentation of what left-wing ideals encompass.

    the other side is saying ‘do this and you’ll be successful’, it sucks right now but you will get there if you try.

    Except that’s not what they communicate, because while they offer “solutions” (mostly towards a rather suppressive and overly strict understanding of gender stereotypes) they immediately find in and shift the blame for young men’s problems towards an out-group, such as the “radical left” and LTBGQ people.

    In fact, I find it’s the right that actively hates me for just being me because I don’t conform to their idea of what a man is, even though I’m a cis-hetero white male.

    “Don’t try to find your own way because this is what you need to be, and everything else is degenerate and shameful.”

    I know which I find more appealing.

    • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      dude i am a man. i have been a leftist man my entire life. i don’t wnat to be a part of the left anymore because it’s so pathetic and shameful to be a liberal these days. the left wants me to support them, give them my votes and money… but their political agenda does absolutely nothing to benefit me or men in general. we are told that because of historical oppression we ‘owe’ giving our work/money/time to minorities and women, that we should just endless sacrifice… that’s not how any of this works. and men are not interested in being used and abused and told me to be grateful for it.

      what you fail to get is that it is a talking point… a talking point that is absolutely true. one that the left adamantly denies, but is true of the lived experience of tons of men and men are going to listen to who talks to their truth and their experience. not the left which adamantly denies we have any inherent value or worth… to the left our only worth is what we give to women and minorities.

      dude the left hates me way more than the right does. that’s been my experinece. i went to college only to get harassed, assaulted and screamed at. people on the right don’t scream at me and tell me how i am a threat for minding my own business at a bar/cafe because my penis is a ‘threat’ to them. i’m glad you have enough white guilt to be shamed into submission, but i don’t. i worked my ass my entire life from the age of 14 and i am sick of being shamed and harassed for simply providing for myself. of being told that i’m an asshole for not giving more money to women and minorities when I was broke as shit and eating expired food. maybe you never had to provide for yourself because you had a well-off family to pay your bills, but a lot of us didn’t.

      when i was in college i had rich women and minorities screaming at me how i shouldn’t exist becausei ‘stole’ their opportunity by getting a scholarship and their parents had to pay full tuition. Fuck the left, fuck their anti-penis obsession. men have every right to health and happiness as women do. and until their messaging and political goals become more inclusive, they are going to continue to alienate younger men.

      people vote for their own self interest. they don’t vote for the interests of oppressed minority groups.