Tbf the only reason “she was our best option” is because so many people fall into the two party trap and absolutely refuse to organize and vote for a third party candidate despite having tools to organize better than any time in history. That “but muh two parties” attitude from all of you is a larger part of what’s holding us back than any of you realize.
Btw, to all of you asking “where are the third party people outside of election season” and saying “right now we have to vote to extend genocides, talk about change after” well you just downvoted the one above us 8 times, as every time one posts you must enforce the two party system even during the time you previously deemed it “ok” (no elections going on that I’m aware of).
I’d have a lot more respect for Democrat voters if they’d stop lying about it. You don’t wish there was a third option, you strike down conversation about it unilaterally, you like the two party system at least enough to perpetuate it instead of even look for or consider another option. Just admit you like the democrats and while I may disagree at least you’re being honest with yourselves and others.
Or y’know maybe instead of being a crab in a bucket, be a drop in the bucket of change, every person who votes outside the two party system is one more drop closer to ending the two party system (or at least changing which “two parties” are the big ones, which would still be a step.)
It really doesn’t matter at the federal level how you vote. Both parties have a stranglehold on Washington and they will until there’s a nationwide cataclysm of some sort.
The only power any of us has is local, and you can do a fuckton of good in your neighborhood if you’re just willing to spend a few minutes doing so.
That’s the exact defeatist attitude I’m talking about, rather than even try to do anything at the federal level that might spark any change, just accept it, it won’t change until the volcano under Yellowstone kills us all and we might as well perpetuate it for drama.
Doing local shit is good too, but if that’s how you feel about the national level you may as well just not vote, since it’s inevitable anyway.
But at least quit lying to yourselves and the rest of us, next time someone supports a third party don’t say “I agree we need change, but it’s not the time to talk about this…” say “it’s useless, there is no change, give up hope, stop trying, there’s never a time to talk about this.”
but if that’s how you feel about the national level you may as well just not vote, since it’s inevitable anyway.
You’re right, and that’s becoming increasingly clear, which is why millions more skipped Election Day in 2024 rather than miss a badly-needed days pay. That’s not their fault nor mine, but it is reality. There is no reason to vote when both parties do exactly the same shit.
It’s going to become even more clear after the 2026 elections when the major provisions of the BBB kick in and the new international trade deals, rerouting supply chains around the US instead of through it, come into play.
Unless you’re a billionaire, you have no power outside your zip code.
Good, at least you’re honest about it. While I may disagree and think even a protest vote is better than a protest-nonvote, and that if everyone organized behind a third party then it’d go a long way to (if the election then gets stolen blatantly by the two) having a more organized structure for resistance in place, at least you’re not one of the people I’m talking about who just buries their head in sand in support of the “lesser” instead burying your head in the sand in support of nihilism, which is better.
Tbf the only reason “she was our best option” is because so many people fall into the two party trap and absolutely refuse to organize and vote for a third party candidate despite having tools to organize better than any time in history. That “but muh two parties” attitude from all of you is a larger part of what’s holding us back than any of you realize.
Btw, to all of you asking “where are the third party people outside of election season” and saying “right now we have to vote to extend genocides, talk about change after” well you just downvoted the one above us 8 times, as every time one posts you must enforce the two party system even during the time you previously deemed it “ok” (no elections going on that I’m aware of).
I’d have a lot more respect for Democrat voters if they’d stop lying about it. You don’t wish there was a third option, you strike down conversation about it unilaterally, you like the two party system at least enough to perpetuate it instead of even look for or consider another option. Just admit you like the democrats and while I may disagree at least you’re being honest with yourselves and others.
Or y’know maybe instead of being a crab in a bucket, be a drop in the bucket of change, every person who votes outside the two party system is one more drop closer to ending the two party system (or at least changing which “two parties” are the big ones, which would still be a step.)
It really doesn’t matter at the federal level how you vote. Both parties have a stranglehold on Washington and they will until there’s a nationwide cataclysm of some sort.
The only power any of us has is local, and you can do a fuckton of good in your neighborhood if you’re just willing to spend a few minutes doing so.
That’s the exact defeatist attitude I’m talking about, rather than even try to do anything at the federal level that might spark any change, just accept it, it won’t change until the volcano under Yellowstone kills us all and we might as well perpetuate it for drama.
Doing local shit is good too, but if that’s how you feel about the national level you may as well just not vote, since it’s inevitable anyway.
But at least quit lying to yourselves and the rest of us, next time someone supports a third party don’t say “I agree we need change, but it’s not the time to talk about this…” say “it’s useless, there is no change, give up hope, stop trying, there’s never a time to talk about this.”
You’re right, and that’s becoming increasingly clear, which is why millions more skipped Election Day in 2024 rather than miss a badly-needed days pay. That’s not their fault nor mine, but it is reality. There is no reason to vote when both parties do exactly the same shit.
It’s going to become even more clear after the 2026 elections when the major provisions of the BBB kick in and the new international trade deals, rerouting supply chains around the US instead of through it, come into play.
Unless you’re a billionaire, you have no power outside your zip code.
Good, at least you’re honest about it. While I may disagree and think even a protest vote is better than a protest-nonvote, and that if everyone organized behind a third party then it’d go a long way to (if the election then gets stolen blatantly by the two) having a more organized structure for resistance in place, at least you’re not one of the people I’m talking about who just buries their head in sand in support of the “lesser” instead burying your head in the sand in support of nihilism, which is better.