The hardest thing to believe about this is the cops taking my side on anything
Cops protect private property, so if the zeitgeist shifts so that fundamentalists with their giant trump crosses are bringing down property values, then yeah, the cops will come hassle them.
They don’t do their convoy BS in nice areas so much, do they?
They did here. Got egged. Cops laughed.
Whenever you see two cop cars at a traffic stop where I live, the driver sure as hell ain’t white.
“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”
What a Christian might say:
“The bible is the word of God and I believe what it says.”
What I hear:
“I can’t distinguish between fantasy and reality but I’m going to tell you how I think you should live, and if you dare object too strongly to my meddling I’ll accuse you of persecuting me.”
It should never be illegal to believe in a god or gods, whether that god is Crom, the FSM, Cybele, or the demon Yahweh. But your god should be like your genitals: play with them in private, don’t expose them in public, and don’t shove them down childrens’ throats.
The issue here is that they think “The Bible is the word of God and i believe what it says” and “I hate gay people and wish they would all die” mean the same thing.
I mean, does it not? Christianity is hateful as fuck when you don’t sugarcoat it.
It does not
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
If the second greatest commandment is to love your neighbor as yourself, then hate has no place in Christianity.
So, the conclusion then should be that any person hating another person because of whatever and “basing” it on believe/bible is not a christin buy a heretic, right?
Basically, almost all the hateful stuff comes from the old testament, which Jesus went, “That’s invalid now”
Really, it would be a lovely religion without all the people
But, did he?
Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
I’ve often seen that as a response, when someone claims that Jesus wiped the shitty Old T nonsense away.
That’s the trouble with the bible, it’s a book written by a bunch of men with competing interests over thousands of years ago, and honestly could have used a team of diligent editors, but has been held up as the infallible word of some dude sitting in the clouds.
Fulfill it, as in complete it. It’s done. With his sacrifice he formed a new covenant. He goes on to say that anyone who wants to follow any part of the law of Moses must follow the whole law of Moses*. That means that anyone judging someone for old testament laws is a sinner themselves for eating pork or shrimp, for wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, and 611 other laws that are quite difficult to follow in a modern world.
*Galatians 5:4
Thanks for the clarification!
It is an old, confusing patchwork quilt of a book and much of it open to interpretation - with many picking and choosing.
I just don’t worry about that and instead try to abide by one rule - do unto others. Be excellent to everyone. Seems to serve me fairly well.
I think the proper terminology would be “apostate”, but you are correct. There is no hatred of any kind in legitimate Christian beliefs. It is the political far-right who improperly conflate their strongly held bigotry with their Christian affiliation.
Here, here, well said!
You and OP are both right. You’re talking about Christianity as taught in the gospels. OP is talking about Christianity as practiced by people who go to churches where the asshole in the pulpit thumps the Old Testament and the Epistles of Paul while ignoring Christ’s actual teachings (because they’re too woke nowadays).
At the risk of sounding like I’m talking about True Scotsmen, your religion is not Christianity if you don’t follow the teaching of Jesus the Christ.
Whether a self-righteous authoritarian claiming to be a Christian is in fact a Christian is no concern of mine. Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius. I will despise and condemn them all, and trust in their God to know which are truly his.
I strongly believe that you can be better than that.
As far as I’m concerned, anybody who claims to be a Christian is a Christian. Who am I to suggest otherwise? And if a self-identified Christian proves to be a hateful, tyrannical asshole, that’s your problem as a fellow Christian. It’s no concern of mine.
What do you call their religion, then?
Manifest Destiny
Do you want my honest opinion? I call it demon worship.
Mammon worship.
“If one comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.” - Luke 14:26
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword” - Matthew 10:34
It’s almost like it’s all made up bullshit and you can make it say anything you want 🤔
There’s people who don’t believe that, but only because they’re ignoring the parts that tell them to.
They’ll have excuses, like this other schmuck, but bear in mind that seventeen centuries of aggressively scriptural Christian governance had no trouble enacting violence on specific groups of people.
Even when Martin Luther nailed a long-ass list of complaints to the door of the church, demanding they follow the book more closely… his opinion of Judaism was not ‘let’s be nicer toward our beloved brethren,’ if you catch my drift.
When the bible is the one saying gay people should die, it kinda does.
The saving grace is that most people who say that don’t actually mean it, as they either haven’t really read it, or have made enough mental gymnastics to ignore the stuff they don’t agree with.
It isn’t your belief in a god that is considered hate speech, it is you trying to implement your religious views into laws that is the problem.
Well it was illegal to believe in gods back in the middle ages unless it was the biblical god.
Isn’t it illegal to believe in God in some parts of the world?
And it’s illegal to NOT believe in God in other parts.
In what countries is it illegal to believe in God?
Off the top of my head, I want to say North Korea. It might be the only country.
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Hm, it looks like that’s not true. China even officially recognizes Catholicism
“Did you read the bible?”
“No”
“Okay”.
See it’s never the whole story, in reality it would be more like
The bible is the word of God and I believe what it says [which is is why I locked my child in the basement for kissing out of wedlockIt’s a finger-curling argument. ‘Oh what, I’m not allowed to go like this?!’ Sir, you shot your wife.
That’s brilliant; what is that, Monty Python?
I’ve never heard that before.
Bespoke. I’ve spent entirely too much time dealing with idiotic “just because” strawman garbage.
Strange… I just love my neighbor, and no one calls me a bigot.
hilarious considering the popularity of carter who was very religious. might have something to do with actually following the morality of it.
lol, even the “today” panel is an outright lie
Not exactly. I feel like I can make some pretty accurate predictions about somebody who says that to me, although I would respond differently to them.
Well if you believe the word of god outright and the word of god says kill all gays, maybe it is hate speech, acolyte.
Just insanely stupid.
Nor will it ever
It was once. History could repeat itself.
It might as well still be illegal in some countries.
