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Detained a minor at gunpoint while off duty

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    Imagine having a Spanish last name and working with ICE.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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      Tio Tomas.

      • Steve Dice@sh.itjust.works
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        Tío Tomás*

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        Im disappointed i didnt hear this one before.

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      As someone who is part Mexican I can assure you that Mexican and other Latin groups are definitely the worst kind of people about “illegal” immigrants. They’ll literally throw other Hispanics under the bus in order to feel like they belong here.

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      I’ve met plenty of self hating Latinos — it’s not as wild a concept as you might think.

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        Yeah but working for an organization that actively hates you is wild to me.

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      Latinos are not a homogeneous group anymore than all White people, or Asians are homogeneous.

      That said, imagine being any human being and working with ICE.

      WTF is wrong with you?

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        I mean working for ICE is fucking terrible, but having a Spanish name and working for ICE is so completely disconnected considering what is happening right now. Latinos are specifically targetted regardless how homogenous the group is.

    • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      IKR. Im sure they’ll remember his support once they start running low on people to disappear.

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        You need not imagine. We already know what happened to the ‘Jew for Hitler’ party. >!They came for them too.!<

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

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      Talk about a Benedict Arnold….

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    I’m GLAD we’re giving BILLIONS of Tax Payer dollars to these People who are KIDNAPPING CHILDREN!

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    Ironic how’s he’s got the name of someone ICE typically deports

    • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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      Like half of them are, it’s ridiculous.

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        There were Jews for Hitler. These people really think they’re “one of the good ones”. They’re just useful labour until the labour part is done, then they’ll get tossed in with the rest of the Jews/Hispanics.

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            Humans for Tyranid!

    • DupaCycki@lemmy.world
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      Friendly fire

    • Jhex@lemmy.world
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      and the looks

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    A criminal latino? Why is he not deported yet??

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      deleted by creator

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    Gerardo Rodriguez, 45, of Temecula, faces charges that include assault with a deadly weapon, child endangerment and assault by a public officer in connection with the incident. According to attorney Greg Kirakosian, Rodriguez pointed a firearm at his teenage client.

    “My client, 17-year-old Mexican-American, was just dropping somebody off there,” Kirakosian said.

    Surveillance video captured the confrontation, which happened shortly after 10 p.m. on Nov. 10 in Temecula. At the time, the teen, who is a U.S. citizen, was driving along Daybrook Terrace, taking a friend home when he was confronted by Rodriguez.

    “Get out of the car. Put it in park,” Rodriguez can be heard ordering the teen in the video.

    After hearing of the commotion, the boy’s mother arrived at the scene with her son’s passport to prove his citizenship. The boy’s father called the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department, who arrived shortly after.

    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/off-duty-federal-agent-arrest-temecula/3805911/

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      Makes my blood boil that his mom had to bring her kid’s passport.

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      What a fucking trash country this is

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    Latino ice agent. I hope everyone he knows hates him, what a traitor

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      CBP has always been a big employer of people who can speak spanish. You’d be surprised how many of the federal government’s lowest level enforcers are hispanic or latino.

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        Throughout the entirety of documented history about 1/3 of literally every demographic of people (including yours!) are complete shit. This is why we always have and always will struggle and fail with meaningful progress.

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          I hope that’s not the case. We’ve moved a long way from BCE to now, and even in the past hundred years humanity has made significant strides in our collective morals in regards to others. I hate being positive, but maybe this current black mark of governing that is hammering the globe is going to be just a blip.

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            If we were going to change we would have by now. Despite technology progressing, people have always been what we are now, just as smart, just as stupid, just as selfish and self destructive. We’re still fighting literally the same war over the bible that we’ve been fighting since the moment we made up the bible. Time is a flat circle that only consists of about 100 years.

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      Class traitors

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    illegally detained a minor at gunpoint whilst off duty is so many bad things in one.

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      Not shown: [shitfaced]

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Yeah, it’s the people they’re rounding up that are the criminals 🙄

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    Race traitor

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      Class traitor too

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    According to this, he isn’t ice. But then again, ICE isn’t exactly open about who actually works there.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-11-17/riverside-county-off-duty-officer-points-gun-at-teen

    Gerardo Rodriguez, 46, was known by neighbors to be an agent employed by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement or Customs and Border Patrol, said Greg Kirakosian, a lawyer representing the teenager. An ICE spokesperson wrote that Rodriguez is not employed by the agency. A CBP spokesperson said in a statement: “This matter is under investigation.”

    The teenager had driven by Rodriguez’s home in Temecula to drop friends off at a nearby house at around 10 p.m. on Nov. 10, Kirakosian said. When he drove back he was stopped by Rodriguez, who pulled a gun. The Riverside County Sheriff’s Department was dispatched at around 10:40 p.m., according to a news release.

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      “is not” Hmm. What about “was not”? Did they fire him so they could say is not? Is he a contractor? A merc?

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        Every agent that’s gotten into trouble on duty I’ve seen were classified as a civilian detail working alongside the federal agents. Probably so they don’t have to take accountability for their training or actions.

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          What fucking bullshit!

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        It depends what you mean by “is”.

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        A merc?

        That sums up any armed forces, really.

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      Didn’t really expect them to own it

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      Of not employed by ice, that explains why he was arrested.

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      So, a bounty hunter?

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    Awww sucks when you don’t have the protection of your goon squad. Suck shit cunt

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    In of itself, its not inherently illegal to detain someone when you’re not a cop (e.g., shopkeepers’ privilege). Same holds true if you see someone firebombing a school. You can detain someone for criminality until police arrive.

    Just, ICE isn’t a police force related to a criminal matter. Immigration is civil under Article II. It’s why they cannot enter your home or a business on their own like cops can, and they cannot get a warrant from an immigration judge to do so since immigration proceedings are an executive agency matter under homeland security. That makes the immigration judge an administrative judge under Article II rather than a full judge under Article III. So, they cannot detain someone while off duty in any manner related to immigration.

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      Citizen’s arrest is generally pretty narrow in what / when it allows, even with the added protections to the process shopkeepers privilege grants to buisnesses.

      The major hurdle is in most states you have to have witnessed the offense occur, (or a similarly high bar of burden of proof) or and in most states it must be a felony they commited.

      Illegal immigracommitted. Only misdemeanor, unless someone has committed the offense multiple times. (Illegal reentry)

      So in most states, the only way one could make a valid citizen’s arrest of an illegal immigrant would be if you litterally watched them sneak over the border multiple times.

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      Rules don’t matter if they aren’t enforced.

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    Please put this fuck in gen pop

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      In South Sudan? Or Argentina?

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        El salvador?

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        Cecot

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        Is “yes” an option?

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    That domain has not aged well… remember when we had hope that crimes would be punished?

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      Stop giving up, do, and get others active.

      To everyone reading this we will punish them by getting together and doing!! Many of us already are doing, and more people will help even more:

      https://www.goodgoodgood.co/articles/hope-key-in-meaningful-life

      https://www.goodgoodgood.co/articles/hopeful-people-live-better-lives-study

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        Piggybacking to ask others (or you!) familiar with finding/building local mutual aid to PM my dumbass. I’m a founding idiot in a lot of red.

        And, I don’t envision such a group has to align with me (in whatever context) other than support and do no harm.

        Hope you don’t mind Batmorous

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    Piece of shit

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    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

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