Wow, I knew I had eastern fence lizards around my house (I’m in TN), but I never would’ve guessed the western variety is named exactly the same! I wonder if the eastern variety has similar results
Side tangent, looking up a picture of eastern fence lizard seems to also show results for western fence lizards TITLED as eastern fence lizards since according to google the primary difference between them is the color the males have on their belly (blue being western, green being eastern)
I’m guessing y’all didn’t know about this then

I’m not reading why they aren’t transitioning to the synthetical alternative in the states. One assumes money, but it’s also a very convoluted way to produce the stuff, so I’m curious why this is still the cheaper procedure.
It must be very tough to produce synthetically, but not too hard, as in Europe they are not bleeding crabs anymore. I’m just curious what the margin is that makes the animal abuse worth it.
I didn’t know about this, and I thank you for sharing it.
I go to a weekly philosophy discussion group, and in a few weeks, a friend is running a session on the ethics of animal research. She is doing a PhD and recently did the animal handling training course because her research will involve mice, and she really enjoyed the seminar that covered the legal and ethical aspects of animal research — so much so that it inspired her to volunteer to run a session for the philosophy group.
This is depressing to learn about, but might be an interesting case study for that discussion
I did and it’s pretty fucking sickening to me.
I hope you took the covid vaccine anyway
I did, I recognize the benefits outweigh the atrocities by a ton, but it’s also still nightmarishly evil to have living creatures all chained up and drained of their blood.
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I’m from PA, lyme is pretty common here.
One of my friends moved to Seattle, and one when he came back to visit family he managed to catch it.
Apparently he got a call from the state health department in Washington after he got his test results back basically asking “where the hell did you get Lyme disease”
He told them he’d been in PA, and they were basically like “ok yeah that checks out”
It’s not even the first lizard based medicine. There was also Byetta, which was based on gila monster saliva. It’s a diabetes drug that was one of the first to also be useful for weight loss.
Yup, you probably already know this but Gila monster saliva is the main part of the research that led to the creation of ozempic!
TOS? VOY! Just bleed Janeway and Paris dry!
Marie Batel might have a word or two to contribute.
My first thought was VOY when they became lizards too!
You never thought that Star Trek plots were allegories simply plucked from the headlines of the day?
Okay. So what inspired And So the Children Shall Lead? (TOS, third season.)
It’s about children getting possessed and murdering everybody.
Oh. And Threshold’s Salamander-Children. (Voyager. Janeway topped Paris and created a new hyper advanced evolution of…humanity…?)
Roddenberry loved his god-like children plots. Charlie X. Trelane. Even Q. Every time he had writers block, he’d spew out another one of those.
Wesley wast the worst of these. (and a total write-in.)
I think I missed that ubuntu release…
Get Ren this lizard blood, he must be protected!!
It’s a Stargate Universe plot, even






