• AppleTea@lemmy.zip
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    11 hours ago

    If Russia magically stopped existing before 2016, we’d still have Trump. He’s a homegrown phenomenon. There was and still is lot of resentment of establishment politics since the '08 collapse. Almost all the “recovery” from that was concentrated in the top 20% of income earners.

    Trump is crook helping himself and his rich friends, but he presents himself on television as anti-establishment. Gameshow Host President plus the American Public. You really need 80% foreign intervention to do the math on that one?

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      7 hours ago

      I mean they can both be true. The collapse of American education and media laid the groundwork for Trump. For him to even come anywhere close to power reveals a stark and horrifying collapse of everything that’s supposed to keep us understanding reality and keep the whole train on the rails. But, also, Russia’s formidable power at narrative-shaping in Western countries is a factor is the proximate cause of how bad it is. We haven’t even really got our heads around the nature of how bad it really is, having the whole top levels of government hollowed out and destroyed like they currently are being. We’ll find out the next time there is an actual crisis.