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    I actually found that interview really interesting, or at the very least entertaining.

    First of all, Tucker Carlson pretty much forced Nick Fuentes to agree that racism is not compatible with Christianity. They also talked a lot about Gaza, with Nick Fuentes mentioning that he thought it was hilarious that the neo-conservative right doesn’t realize that he opposes Israel for the exact same reason that the left does, i.e. not because of anti-Semitism but because he genuinely thinks that genocide is abhorrent. He then shifted gear and said he was a huge fan of Joseph Stalin.

    I really don’t think that Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens care at all about sponsorships or donor money at this point. They’re doubling down on criticizing military action on Venezuela and Iran, they’re insinuating that Charlie Kirk was murdered by Zionists for his views on Israel and demand that funding for Israel is withdrawn, and they are openly criticizing Trump. They’re probably going to win this civil war for the mantle of MAGA and will likely be vindicated in the end.

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      Yeah the Nazi who’s famously done Holocaust revisionism is actually not anti-Semitic and opposes israel on the basis of human rights instead of cynically using it as a talking point to garner support…

      Both are fascist and antisemitic.

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        As I mentioned, this dude said he admires Joseph Stalin. I don’t think it’s wise to to absorb or internalize what he says. But there’s a split in MAGA and I think it’s easy to see why Tucker’s faction is going to command the grassroots.

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          Yeah, and the Nazi’s said they were socialist. That doesn’t carry any weight when you look at what they actually stand for.

          You’re right that there is a split, but both sides are still antisemitic. It’s between anti-Semites that support Israel and those that don’t.

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            I don’t think socialists like Joseph Stalin. I’m saying that it’s a really unhinged thing to say.

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        I’m not implying that he is. However I think he is genuine in his criticism of war, and by extension Israel. And I think that this point of view having a platform in the US right is going to have a profound impact on the MAGA movement.

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          I don’t think he is genuine in anything. He somehow got “milder” in recent years but i still remember the hatemongering asshole on Fox, and the idiot who got got verbally raped by Putin for 2h straight. His shtick might have changed, but he hasn’t.

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            I haven’t exactly followed him closely but I don’t think he’s mild at all. He has some really extreme views on citizenship, ethnicity, religion, abortion, gender and so on. He’s got a lot of weird clips talking about occultism and demons.

            He does however talk a lot about regretting being a shill for the Iraq war back in the day, and that he doesn’t want to repeat that mistake with Venezuela and Iran. I think that carries a lot of weight for lots of people.

            My point is not to try to whitewash Tucker Carlson, I’m just saying there’s a substantial difference between him and someone like Ben Shapiro.

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              I don’t think he’s mild at all.

              milder

              I’m guessing you don’t remember his constant presence until he got fired from Fox, of all places, for being too much of a shit-stirrer. He is putting on different clothes these days but he’s still the worst of the worst.

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                I’m not an American so I’m not following FOX or any other American media that closely. But yes, I do remember him on FOX, and that he used a lot of extremely aggressive faces and language when talking about the liberals. I’m not sure if he’s actually changed his tactics, he just shifted targets.