Despite his “no” vote, the Senate deal to reopen the government bears Schumer’s fingerprints
Either Schumer no longer has effective control over own his caucus, or he has permitted the deal to progress with a wink and a nod behind the scenes — and with a strident disavowal for the bank of cameras he famously loves — while taking Democratic voters for fools.
Two points:
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No one was calling for Chuck to go when he approved the previous budget without a fight. This is not because he folded but because he dared to fight. He will be replaced with someone who will never try to fight Trump
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The 8 Democrats that voted for this are not some traitors to the party. Republicans needed 8 votes so Dems gave them 8 votes. If they needed 20 votes they would find 20 Dems to vote with them. They chose the ones that are ready to retire or have no chances at re-election but if needed they would just go down the list and find more people. If you think Dems have a problem with 8 members you’re delusional. Both parties have the same owners and the same goals. Don’t get fooled by the theater.
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Chuck the Chuck.
I’m sure he’ll write a strong letter
Chuck Schumer voted against the capitulation. Blame the Senators who voted for it.
Put aside your axe to grind with Schumer and make statements that reflect reality.
The deal was the Republicans got their eight votes from senators that aren’t up for election soon.
It always goes something like that. It’s never 30-40 senators or house members from the opposing side that vote for something when a deal is reached. It’s always just enough, with the votes coming from the ones most able to take the hit due to not being up for election next time, in a safe seat, very high popularity, etc.
Even when the minority leader admits to being part of the deal, they aren’t necessarily part of the group voting for it.
Ain’t no fucking way Chuck Schumer isn’t responsible for this. That motherfucker has been doing shit like this for a while. But, let’s be fair and say, for some fucking reason, that Schumer had nothing to do with this. Then he has absolutely no control over his party, and he should go.
Like, either he sucks at his job and needs to go or he coordinated this and needs to go. And I no longer think he is bad at his job. Out of touch? Yes. A fucking dipshit? Yes. But bad at his job? No. I am not stupid enough to believe that for one second.
Which means we need to replace every Dem senator with progressives. Every senator should be followed everywhere by homeless people in their state. They should be seated next to starving families in restaurants. They should be forced to share medical treatments with the people whose healthcare they just sacrificed.
Chuck is that you?
The blame was on the Republicans until Schumer decided to be a Nazi
Solely on
Democrats are honestly a bunch of fucking pussies at this point.
There’s a literal fascist authoritarian wannabe in charge and where’s the resistance? Christ, MTG is being more critical of Trump than they are.
It’s not cowardice, its calculated evil.
Resistance should be grassroots organized, please don’t rely on the Democrats (or any political party) for that.
Anyone quoting Joe Hill is all right by me.
Why not both?
We’re organizing locally, and won the last set of elections. But that doesn’t mean we can’t still expect resistance on the national level when there was an overwhelming victory in the last slate of elections.
Organize at the grassroots level to retake the Democratic party. People sorely underestimate the work and time involved in raising a new party from scratch. We already have an apparatus and, for about half of voters, a recognizable and somewhat trustworthy brand, although tarnished these last couple decades. Kick Schumer out. Alienate all the establishment assholes. Brutally reject the cowards and the bribetakers. Let the sun shine in so the healing can begin.
“At this point” implies there were not pussies at some point. The Democrats have always been cowards.
People keep forgetting it’s not left v right, it’s rich v poor. Democrat leaders are just playing their part.
People always talked about age limits for elected office, I think the same holds true for wealth. You / your family worth $$$M/B no more government service for you. It will never happen, nice to dream I guess.
It is left vs right. To left is to be anti rich. To be right is to be pro rich.
Exactly. The American 2-party system is between right and alt-right.
I n hope trump actually goes through with putting these animals in concentration camps and they get fucking left there. Pig fucki g shit bags.
Get rid of his weak Nazi appeasing ass…40 days for nothing
It’s so fricking infuriating because, literally we were actually seeing the cracks form. Trump admin is violating the hatch act, pushing “dem’s have shut down the government”, and yet poll after poll shows the american people put the blame on the republicans. Trump was constantly boo’d to his face at the commanders game… and the democrats had an amazing election where they won every contest they were in. I can’t fathom a worse time to fold
the democrats had an amazing election where they won every contest they were in. I can’t fathom a worse time to fold
That’s your answer right there: the moment the election was over, they went back to screwing over the voters on behalf of their owner donors.
If the election had been a week from now, they’d have caved by Thanksgiving at the latest.
They saw Zohran win and decided the people had had enough fun, but it’s time to put us back into our place before we get an ideas about making America better for the common person
Now, Roginsky is “thoroughly disgusted,” she said. “I don’t understand why they would subject people to hunger and to layoffs and to flight delays and to missed paychecks for the past 40 days, if only to get nothing out of it now.”
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Schumer, who was the target of near-universal vitriol among Democrats in March when he backed down in a budget battle that threatened to evolve into a shutdown, was quick to announce his opposition to the deal and he voted against it Monday night.
But in fact, his fingerprints are all over it.
Get rid of this useless piece of shit, Schumer needs to be in a nursing home.
needs to be in a nursing home
Specifically, in the medicaid wing of a nursing home.
An Andrew Cuomo-era nursing home.
Take the other traitor fucks there with him.
I hope we’re talking about an underfunded nursing home or something , because these traitorous pieces of shit don’t deserve basic decency. you have to give that to receive it.
His whip voted yes. Either he can’t even control his whip, or he orchestrated it.
He absolutely orchestrated it, the reason he is the minority leader in senate is because he has the connections and political capital to influence or even order the votes of his party. I am only somewhat curious if they knew he was going to back out and vote no to try to wash his hands of his own capitulation. It’s wild because it signals he still thinks he has a future.
Schumer represents a weird kind of old-school political capital. Whereas Trump’s power comes from a literal horde of orcs carrying weapons and flags, arguably an even older kind of power to wield, Schumer carries the Elder Conclave of Ancient Liberal Liches who delight in social parties and ritual and systems. If you’ve ever listened to the old-guard dems talking among each other it sounds like a Victorian-era socialite gathering, like aliens from another dimension. While wildly out-of-touch, the reason he has power is because this kind of thing appeals to older institutional bankers, elder community leaders, and people with old money.
Old money is the reason he still stands as the “head” of the Democratic party and I am actually unsure if efforts to unseat him will be successful for the same reasons that Trump and his warband face no consequences because their own political capital. Nobody wants to challenge the base. If you go against Trump you get people breaking into your house and shooting you, if you go against Schumer, you lose your 7-figure retirement and your vacation house on the beach. For many people with a lot to lose, either of these outcomes is equally terrifying.
It’s the latter. Just magically the 8 that are retiring or aren’t up for reelection just manically all got together at the same time to do this? Right…
I mean, it isn’t magic. They also had more pressure because of snap running out. Also, some of them, like Fetterman, always voted against the shutdown.
Yeah, fuck Fetterman
What a collasal disappointment he has been.
Yep. And either way, he has to go.
Every single elected democrat should be primaried from the left in 2028, full stop.
The leftists candidates are no longer the spoilers. The Democrats are spoiling it for leftists. The center is just gone.
“Every single” is the kind of lazy shit that gets us into this mess. It’s going to take more thought than that.
What a stupid thing to say. Bernie? AOC?
you could have at least bothered to name two Democrats if you’re trying for an example.
8 democrats are not the entire party. The party is made up of individuals.
- Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia
- Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois
- Senator Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire
- Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania
- Senator Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire
- Senator Angus King of Maine
- Senator Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada
- Senator Jacky Rosen of Nevada
You know Schumer was directing them, right?
Don’t care.
Does anyone know the strategy or play for doing this? I mean, this seams super weak on the surface. I do know that the timing or the next negotiations would be advantageous, but geesh, that the best they got?
Elections are over. That was the stop gap. Now they have to reopen so people can get paid to go shopping for holiday season.
Ding ding fucking ding.
They did to the people suffering the shutdown what tRump did to the people who voted for him. Told them what they wanted to hear, that he was gonna help them, got their vote, then walked away. We were ready to help weather the storm for our communities over the holidays. All the dems had to do was keep the message unified and refuse to budge until they put back what they removed. Heaven forbid these rich fucks, who share the same airspace as us normies, potentially miss flights and their rich donors lose profits over the busiest travel period of the year.
Honestly, this would be the time for a general strike. We already did the legwork to help provide for those who would have gone without SNAP. Lots in my area set up little pantries at work, donated supplies to places catering to underprivileged families, and were ready to help neighbors over the holidays. None of that disappeared this week. I personally plan to refuse holiday shopping and continue giving what I can to food banks and local childcare facilities.
Unfortunately, we’re too disorganized and too many are forced to live a tightrope between poverty and wage-slavery to really see this on a grand scale. Still, I’ll be the change I want to see and not begrudge those without the means to do the same. Despite the govt. and their rich-cuck donors, we only really have us and our communities to rely on.
This is a really good question and ive not heard a good answer.
Even schumer’s stooges didn’t really seem to know why they were doing it. ‘It was the only deal’ or ‘it had gone on too long’ are both non-answers.
There isn’t really a good answer. They had the leverage (finally) and could have compelled something useful.
They get off on losing. I suspect some of them are beating off right now–the human suffering they have enabled must be intoxicating.
Chuck Schumer should run as Gavin Newsom’s vice president.
That would be a good choice - schumer is the only dem who could make newsom look principled by comparison.
This is Fetterman erasure.
They can send the checks to one address that way. streamLINING.
hahaha yesss
That was the plan all along.
While I agree the Senate needs a new minority leader, does any congressional party leader truly control their caucus? Even Republicans can’t stop members of their caucus from voting differently. It wouldn’t be a democracy if they could.
One or two, sure, sometimes.
But eight of the 44? Nearly 1/5 of the Senate democrats, all at once? At least one was saying that they were “keeping leadership in the loop”, too.
