The highest number of attempts at the practical test before passing last year was 21

  • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    It’s multiple choice, the passing grade is 43/50, and you can take practice tests online.

    I genuinely think this person has a mental disability, I can’t think of any other explanation.

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      the passing grade is 43/50,

      They might just be randomly guessing and hoping that they’ll eventually get it, and thinking that their chances are better than they are.

      I think that that’d be…let’s see. Say there are four possible answers for each question. So he’s got a 75% chance of failing any individual question.

      $ maxima -q
      (%i1) load("distrib")$
      (%i2) cdf_binomial(7, 50, .75);
      (%o2)                       1.8188415357867314E-19
      

      That should give the probability of failing at most 7 answers out of 50 if there’s a 75% chance of failing any one.

      So he’s got something like a 0.000000000000000018188% chance of passing the test by randomly guessing.

      His chance of failing a single instance of that test:

      (%i3) 1-cdf_binomial(7, 50, .75);
      
      (%o3)                                 1.0
      

      Ah. He has such a ludicrously small chance of passing that Maxima can’t represent it with the current floating point precision.

      kagis a bit to figure out how to do this

      Okay, apparently Maxima has bigfloats, but they default to only 16 digits of precision; not enough for this. This should give us 200 digits of floating point precision with bigfloats.

      (%i4) fpprec:200;
      
      (%o4)                                 200
      (%i5) 1-bfloat(cdf_binomial(7, 50, .75));
      
      (%o5) 9.999999999999999998181158464213268688894671703526026636336767389444876177016785501194817697978578507900238037109375b-1
      

      Okay, so now chance of failing 128 tests in a row by randomly guessing:

      (%i6) (1-bfloat(cdf_binomial(7, 50, .75)))^128;
      
      (%o6) 9.9999999999999997671882834192983948674103659072385593201782461674117226992783470289641501110105148249790638571335177402867593272110042747272666144926576839664587182158166580514670324207313719393913737b-1
      

      So then his chance of managing to get at least one success out of 128 tests in a row by randomly guessing:

      (%i7) 1-(1-bfloat(cdf_binomial(7, 50, .75)))^128;
      
      (%o7) 2.328117165807016051325896340927614406798217538325882773007216529710358498889894851750209361428664822597132406727889957252727333855073423160335412817841833419485329675792686280606086263120236298536839b-17
      

      So he’s got about a 0.0000000000000023% chance of passing at least once in a 128 random-guess-based series of test attempts (assuming, again, that each question has four multiple choice answers). That is, he could keep doing this for the rest of his life and he’s virtually certain not to pass.

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        You didn’t need to do all that math out to explain that mental health issues cause people to act irrationally.

        • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
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          Oddballs who dive into absurdly lengthy calculations of something trivial do it out of a bizarre, joyful compulsion, rather than necessity.

          (Source: I’m one of those oddballs)

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      My dad is a retired driving instructor and has come across people similar to this. Undiagnosed learning difficulties are probably part of it, but in many cases the people that struggled also had English being not a native language. Maybe it is the combination of the two in these extreme cases

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        There are also people who are just crippled by test taking anxiety. That’s probably not a good indicator for their driving ability either, though

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      With questions along the lines of: “You approach a zebra crossing with 2 pedestrians on it, do you:”

      A) Honk your horn

      B) Wait for them to cross

      C) Run them over

      D) Get out and rugby tackle them to the ground

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        In the state I learned to drive in, if you fail a driving test 3 times (to be fair that is the actual driving exam, not the learner’s permit paper exam) then you have to get clearance from the governor to be allowed to take it a 4th time.

        Failing 3 times definitely indicates you will have some serious issues driving safely. Its not that hard to get a minimum score of 70/100.

        The paper exam idk if the rules are the same. But still, failing 128 times is seriously indicative of ones ability to learn the rules of the road